gays and lesbians more acceptable than homosexuals

[Plane]

Marrage is made publicly , and it is a social institution of honor for the union.

[kimba1]

I most likely word wrong.

I meant marraige is easily a very difficult union to maintain that most in joke brought up.

but you do have a point about honor.
if you gotta use honor to maintain a union than marraige is alot more difficult than most can handle.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I was unaware that heterosexual couples could have civil unions. I do not see anything problematical with this.

The point I was making is that it is untrue that Adam marrying Steve could affect the marriage of Ted and Alice. Any difficulties would exist only in the minds of Ted, Alice or both of them.

If one wishes to call Ted and Alice's marriage "Holy Wedlock" and Adam and Steve's "Civil Wedlock" I fail to see a problem in that.

[kimba1]

if memory serves me right,adam amd steve`s marraige will mean ted and alice`s marraige is downgraded.

it`s not a very well thought arguement,but a popular one.

if anything it should be topics of discussion on who should or should not get married.
ex. pregnant teenage girls.

shouldn`t being married be more difficult ?

divorce is a fairly complicated affair,but marraige is a drunken night in vegas.

the term marraige is sacred just don`t ring true to me

[Xavier_Onassis]

if memory serves me right,adam amd steve`s marraige will mean ted and alice`s marraige is downgraded.

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I KNOW that is what the anti-gay marriage clowns say, but I cannot see how. The odds are 10,000 to one that Adam and Steve have even seen Ted and Alice's marriage license or vice-versa. Except for legal situations, two people normally would have no difficulty passing themselves off as married when they are not, or vice-versa.

I suppose that a marriage si as sacred as the couple choose to think it is. I really doubt that it would become less sacred if gay people could get married.

[kimba1]

on religious matter catholics until afew decades ago don`t acknowledge any other marraiges .
probly quite afew other christian demonation did the same but they never stopped people from getting married.

so why the more aggressive stance

[Xavier_Onassis]

I think the deal is that the Catholic Church claims to be the only one approved by God, so all the sacraments of other churches are bogus, and not approved by God.

God does not seem to have commented on his opinion of this.

[kimba1]

if we want to go the legal route.
does that mean people married out of the country is not legally married?

it worked for mick jagger

[Xavier_Onassis]

I am not familiar with Jaggar's case, so I do not know about that.

As a rule, a marriage in place X involves the laws of place X.

[Plane]

If someone in Nigeria marries four Women , and then is sent by his job to a temporary home in the USA , do we have to consider him a bigamist? The marrage was leagal where it started.

What if he were to decide to become an American citizen ?  Could his four wives expect to also become citizens and still be recognised as his wives?


This could be a great way to import labor from countrys with leagal pologamy.


http://www.iranian.com/main/singlepage/2008/four-wives-one-man

[Xavier_Onassis]

The US does not recognize polygamous marriages from other countries, nor does the INS accept more than one wife. Nor should it.

[Plane]

The US does not recognize polygamous marriages from other countries, nor does the INS accept more than one wife. Nor should it.

What outragious discrimination.

There are probably a dozen women who want to marry Arnold Swartzennegar but that only one may discriminates unfairly al but the one.

[Xavier_Onassis]

The assumption here is that the government is discriminatory, whereas Arnold is the one who does not wish to have any more wives. If he desired to marry no more than three new wives, he could move to some Muslim country. Or he could become a polygamous Mormon and maybe get away with all 20. Apparently the government does not prosecute polygamists from that cult all that much. The only arrests was in the case of teenage wives too young by law to marry.

You are, in this case, complaining about a problem that does not exist, as Arnold has not express a desire to have a harem.

[sirs]

The assumption here is that the government is discriminatory, whereas Arnold is the one who does not wish to have any more wives. ...You are, in this case, complaining about a problem that does not exist, as Arnold has not express a desire to have a harem.

And you know this.....how again?  Been to all his family functions have you?  Been privvy to all his intimate conversations with family and close friends?  Wow

[kimba1]

well
maybe in his youth he might.
he did hang out with bill cosby and jay leno during the hefner years.
but unlike hefner people tend grow out of that phase.
but thiers doubt even hefner is that into his life.
remember it his job to be with blondes .
as you get to be my age you learn nap and a good meal is way more important.