Attempted Terrorist Attack

[Michael Tee]

There is no substitute for armed marshals on every flight. 

And there is no way to guarantee that somewhere, somehow, some "terrorist" or holy warrior (your choice) or some group of them will not penetrate security and complete their mission.  The objective is minimizing the threat, not eradicating it.  Risk can not be abolished from life.  Even from American life.

So it's foolish for DEBKA to claim that the security measures "don't work."  The evidence of their having worked in the past might very well be kept secret, for security reasons.  DEBKA, of course, has an agenda, which includes provoking war between the U.S.A.. and the Islamic countries, any Islamic country.   The bloodier the better.   This can only benefit the Zio-Nazi cause they serve.   Their agenda requires massive amounts of fear-mongering, such as: "Anti-Terror Measures Don't Work." Of course, if "anti-terror measures don't work," then the next logical step is to escalate, and escalation means sanctions, means, ultimately, invasion.  The current objective is to move the U.S. at least one step closer to war.

The article is pure bullshit, nothing but nonsensical Zio-Nazi war-mongering propaganda and should be treated as such.

[Amianthus]

There is no substitute for armed marshals on every flight. 

I'm not so sure that other countries will be so gung-ho about the US government putting armed government agents on their flights.

I mean, we can make the US safe by having our military take over every airport in the world and run them, but I'm not so sure that would go over so well.

[Christians4LessGvt]

There is no substitute for armed marshals on every flight.

How would an armed marshal have done anything more than what was done on this flight?

Quit fooling yourself....like Debka says our anti-terror measures are full of holes...

[Amianthus]

Quit fooling yourself....like Debka says our anti-terror measures are full of holes...

So, how does Debka suggest we have fixed the hole in this case? Think Amsterdam (the origin of this flight) will listen when Congress passes some new laws?

[Christians4LessGvt]

So, how does Debka suggest we have fixed the hole in this case?
Think Amsterdam (the origin of this flight) will listen when Congress passes some new laws?

Ami I doubt Debka suggests "a fix" because there is none.
Just like there is no "fix" for murder....it's gonna happen...always has...always will.
We are in for a very, very, very long war with these cavemen IslamoNazis.
Our security measures are better than nothing.....but still full of holes.
All ya gotta do is stick a large size 100% plastic flask of gasoline down your crotch in your underwear,
wear some loose fit warm-up pants and you could sail right through airport security.....bingo your on
board a plane with 3,4,5 guys with enough gas to cause some serious problems. Thank God the Detroit
flight turned out ok, but the IslamoKlansmen will keep trying & will one day target & kill a bunch more innocent people.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I find your term "Islamoklansmen" to be silly.
The one thing the KKK never did was mess with aircraft.

[Christians4LessGvt]

I find your term "Islamoklansmen" to be silly.
The one thing the KKK never did was mess with aircraft.

Both the KKK Klansmen and the IslamoKlansmen target/terrorize innocent people,
oppose democracy & sometimes hide their shameful acts behind head coverings.

[Michael Tee]

<<How would an armed marshal have done anything more than what was done on this flight?>>

Easy.  They'd ensure that a guy like that would be dealt with effectively 99 times out of 100, instead of leaving it up to chance to determine if his seat-mates are up to the task or not.

[Christians4LessGvt]

Not again: 'Unruly' passenger aboard Northwest Flight 253 taken into custody

BY Helen Kennedy
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Sunday, December 27th 2009,
 

Arbogast/AP

Northwest Flight 253 is grounded once again after a passenger is reportedly 'disruptive.'

A disruptive Nigerian passenger caused the pilot of the same Amsterdam-to-Detroit flight targeted by a Nigerian bomber Christmas Day to declare an emergency Sunday.

Delta/Northwest Airlines flight 253 landed safely in Detroit at 12:34 p.m. and was shunted to a remote part of the tarmac, where it was being held as officials investigated.

Michigan media reported the incident did not appear to be a terrorist threat, but rather was caused by a businessman who became ill during the flight.

The brouhaha started when a passenger spent nearly an hour in the bathroom and then emerged "unruly" and "verbally disruptive," witnesses said.

All 257 passengers and the 12 crew members got off safely and were bused to the terminal, according to a Delta spokeswoman.

The passenger was being questioned, but the incident appeared to be a false alarm, CNN reported.

On Christmas Day, Nigerian banker's son Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab tried to ignite a bomb sewed into his underpants on the same flight.
Passengers pounced on him and immobilized him.

The Associated Press quoted a law enforcement official saying jitters were widespread and there had been several reports of incidents on other flights arriving in Detroit, but none turned out to be serious.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/12/27/2009-12-27_not_again_unruly_passenger_taken_into_custody_aboard_northwest_flight_253.html

[Christians4LessGvt]

Easy.  They'd ensure that a guy like that would be dealt with effectively 99 times out of 100
instead of leaving it up to chance to determine if his seat-mates are up to the task or not.

So the answer to my question is an armed marshal would have not been able
to prevent this guy from boarding with explosives or attempting to blow up the
plane. Plus remember they only need the one out of a 100 to "win". I hope I'm
not on the one in a hundred airplanes your marshal theory doesn't protect.

[Michael Tee]

If you are worried about one flight in a hundred, my advice to you would be to take the train.  There is no system that can stop so-called "terrorists" 100 times out of  100.

The Detroit flight was saved by alert and effective passengers.  If you believe that the average passenger is just as capable of saving the day as trained U.S. marshals, then you'd have a point.  OTOH I believe the marshals would on the whole do a better job than the average passenger and so I continue to advocate the presence of armed guards (on U.S. flights, federal marshals) incognito on all flights.

[Plane]

<<How would an armed marshal have done anything more than what was done on this flight?>>

Easy.  They'd ensure that a guy like that would be dealt with effectively 99 times out of 100, instead of leaving it up to chance to determine if his seat-mates are up to the task or not.

I think this would require an airmarshal to be in every third seat , right now there isn't an air marshal on every third flight.

An air marshal three rows away from the bomber could not act fast enough to prevent anything.


The KKK is a shadow of its former self in large part because of earnest prosicution but equally because of loss of esteem , too many people would be ashamed of joining the KKK now for them to maintain the large numbers that they need.


How can we foster an attitude of shame twards the Al Queda?

[Michael Tee]

<<How can we foster an attitude of shame twards the Al Queda?>>

Good question, but the answer is, you can't.  It's an honour to die for your people and to take a whole shitload of their oppressors with you.

I guess the answer is to stop the oppression, directly and indirectly and there would not be any honour in killing the citizens of countries which are no longer directly or indirectly oppressing your own people.  But that's kinda like telling the crocodile not to eat meat.

[Plane]

<<How can we foster an attitude of shame twards the Al Queda?>>

Good question, but the answer is, you can't.  It's an honour to die for your people and to take a whole shitload of their oppressors with you.

I guess the answer is to stop the oppression, directly and indirectly and there would not be any honour in killing the citizens of countries which are no longer directly or indirectly oppressing your own people.  But that's kinda like telling the crocodile not to eat meat.

We can't stop the justifacation of the Al Quieda without adopting Islam. Even so little a thing as an insensitive cartoon would be to much.

[Amianthus]

The Detroit flight was saved by alert and effective passengers.

After a failure of the detonator...