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Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« on: September 20, 2007, 02:11:44 AM »
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/05/national/printable3235438.shtml


Nuke-Armed B-52 Mistakenly Flown Over U.S.
WASHINGTON, Sept. 5, 2007(AP) A B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states last week, prompting an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander, Pentagon officials said Wednesday.

Rep. Ike Skelton, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, called the mishandling of the weapons "deeply disturbing" and said the committee would press the military for details.

The plane was carrying Advanced Cruise Missiles from Minot Air Force Base, N.D, to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., on Aug. 30, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of a Defense Department policy not to confirm information on nuclear weapons.

The missiles, which are being decommissioned, were mounted onto pylons on the bomber's wings and it is unclear why the warheads had not been removed beforehand.

The Air Combat Command has ordered a command-wide stand down on Sept. 14 to review procedures, officials said. They said there was minimal risk to crews and the public because of safety features designed into the munitions.

In addition to the munitions squadron commander who was relieved of his duties, crews involved with the mistaken load ? including ground crew workers ? have been temporarily decertified for handling munitions, one official said.

The investigation is expected to take several weeks.

The incident was first reported in Military Times newspaper.

"There is no more serious issue than the security and proper handling of nuclear weapons," Skelton said in a statement Wednesday. "The American people, our friends, and our potential adversaries must be confident that the highest standards are in place when it comes to our nuclear arsenal."

Skelton, D-Mo., said his committee will pursue answers on the classified matter "to ensure that the Air Force and the Department of Defense address this particular incident and strengthen controls more generally."



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Well, a good friend sent me this link today.  http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html

Those who've been in the military: Were there ever two week periods where several people where you were stationed died in "accidents"?
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The following section was compiled by 'The Pundit.'
Since the Minot story broke a week ago about the missing nukeclandestine operation from Minot, we have the following (for those who are paying attention):

1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots
3. All are now dead
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents' [Not all of them --LRP]

http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=10465
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070915/BREAKINGNEWS/70915012
http://www.kxmc.com/News/161562.asp
http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=140988
http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/20/news/state/136489.txt
http://www.komotv.com/news/local/9679367.html

Silly me, seeing more than there is to this story. I guess this is just another coincidence.

But no doubt now that there will be more coincidences in the near future because as I have stated before, you need about fourteen signatures to get an armed nuke onto a B-52, and they may have told their wives and friends.

"The Pundit"

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 03:10:10 AM »
A lot of the people listed died previous to the flight.


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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 09:23:44 AM »
A lot of the people listed died previous to the flight.



And?

Even if there had been no flight at all, isn't it still odd that so many died in such a short period?

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 01:25:12 PM »
depends on the size of the workforce and previous yeras data.

I believe one of the links showed the decedent was based at Barksdale.

I think this is one of those emails that tread lightly with facts and are only good for entertainment value.

Kinda like Lincolns secretary was named Kennedy and Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 02:01:05 PM by BT »

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 02:49:09 PM »
<<depends on the size of the workforce and previous yeras data. >>

And management changes in the intervening year.   

« Last Edit: September 20, 2007, 02:54:34 PM by Michael Tee »

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 07:28:16 PM »
So, you're saying that 7 folks who all work at the same base dying within two weeks of each other from "accidents" and the like around the same time an armed nuke makes a cross country flight is simply "one of those things"?

Please, please don't tell me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAWDEsgMahQ

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 10:24:12 PM »
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So, you're saying that 7 folks who all work at the same base dying within two weeks of each other from "accidents" and the like around the same time an armed nuke makes a cross country flight is simply "one of those things"?

Check the links. One of the guys died in early July.

This is one of those synchronicity things that doesn't pass scrutiny.




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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 11:13:51 PM »
If there's really nothing to it, the base could publish the accidental death stats over the past five years to see whether the seemingly high number really is "business as usual" or whether it represents a stunning departure from the norm.

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 11:37:23 PM »
If there's really nothing to it, the base could publish the accidental death stats over the past five years to see whether the seemingly high number really is "business as usual" or whether it represents a stunning departure from the norm.

I think the military has more important things to do than reply to viral emails.

Perhaps the authors could provide some substance.

Just a thought.

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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 11:55:37 PM »
<<I think the military has more important things to do than reply to viral emails.>>

Those figures are easily available.  Any clerk in the accounting office could run them off with less than an hour's effort.  Those "viral e-mails" are U.S. citizens whose hard-earned tax money pays for those nukes, I think the Army could easily at minimal cost and effort avoid the stigma of suspicion in the minds of what are probably now millions of Americans - - IF it had nothing to hide.

<<Perhaps the authors could provide some substance.>>

Yeah?  How?


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Re: Hey, Remember that "Accidental" Armed Nuke Flight?
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 12:00:20 AM »
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Yeah?  How?

For starters when they claim 7 servicemen from Minot died within a 14 day period, they could stay within the time frame and stick to listing personnel based in North Dakota.

Again just a thought.

Maybe they thought no one would check the links.

Their bad.