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Xavier_Onassis

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Bombing Iran would be stupid
« on: March 21, 2012, 06:19:24 PM »
Suppose the US attacks Iran. What would be the consequences?

It would galvanize Iranians AGAINST the US, and there really would be even more insistence in Iran to produce a nuclear weapon.

The US could not just depose Saddam, destroy Iraq and get the Hell out, because then Al Qaeda would take over. In the same way, the US could not just remove Amedinejahd and Ayatollah Kalmeinei, because that would leave Iran in a state of anarchy, and whoever took over would certainly NOT be pro-American, For the US to replace Iran's current government with another one that would not be an enemy of the US would be three times as hard as what was done in Iraq: three times the troops, three times the expense, three times as much time, perhaps.

The US cannot afford to do this. We could destroy Iran and perhaps prevent them from producing a bomb for two or three years at most. It would clearly inflate the cost of petroleum, as it would block the Straits would cause a global depression.

Israel is not worth it, and neither is anything else.

If the Iranians are against Israel because they don't want to see the Palestinians suffer for the loss of their land and lives, bombing Israel would kill many Palestinians and render the land useless for a generation. Does anyone seriously think that Iran would bomb Jerusalem?

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 01:23:15 AM »
Are we really too smart to bomb Iran?

Are Iranians smart enough to never bomb Tel Avive?

Why are we holding so many bombs?

Why are the Iranians working so hard to get atomic bombs ?

Is it smart to construct a threat that is realistic only if you can make an advasary believe that you are crazy and stupid enough to use it ?

The Pentagon spent two generations testing bomber pilots and missileers to ensure that only stable sorts who would not co-opt their orders were given A-Bomb responsibility, these same tests were supposed to ensure that these guys would follow orders to use the bomb also.

The American electorate did as well as it could to elect Presidents who could handle this ultimate responsibility.


I really don't know what Iranians are doing to ensure responsibility , sanity , obedience on the part of bomb delivery crews.


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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 01:18:56 PM »
Why are the Iranians working so hard to get atomic bombs ?
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I do not believe that there is any reliable evidence of this.

Bombing Tel Aviv would kill a LOT of Palestinians, notably the ones the Israelis call "Israeli Arabs" that live in the Tel Aviv Jaffa area.

Bombing Al Quds (Jerusalem) would be pretty much unthinkable for any Muslim country.

In any case, for the US to attack Iran would be futile, extremely dangerous, or both.
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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 02:21:51 PM »
  So.....

New York?

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 02:35:43 PM »
Explain how Iran bombing New York would force Israel to make nice to the Palestinians. It certainly would not serve to force the US to end restrictions on Iran. The assumption that the Iranians are crazy is incorrect, they are not crazy.

The Iranians have no way to do this. Premptory strikes are a terrible idea.

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 11:56:47 PM »
  Have you ever heard of an Iranian Mulla or political officer calling for Isreal to make nice with the Palestinians?

  Heck no , they call for bloody destruction.

   Why not beleive them?

  If they manage to cripple the US , they might think Isreal would be easyer to destroy.

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2012, 12:24:38 AM »
Just to be on record, i would not be in favor of preemptively attacking Iran's nuke facilities. If Israel wants to that's on them. But i don't see a reason for them to do so. If Iran has bad intentions they will show their hand (other than the normal saber rattling and preaching to the choir rouse the rabble rhetoric that has been the status quo for years) and Israel is more than welcome to use it's own nukes in retaliation.




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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2012, 12:40:19 AM »
What BT said.

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2012, 01:15:22 AM »
The Iranians could not destroy Israel.They could not cripple the US to any degree.

The US should tell the Israelis that if they attack, they will get no support, no weapons, no more spare parts, and perhaps no more aid. We do not need Netanyahu to play cowboy.

The Iranians are just posturing.
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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2012, 11:14:42 PM »
  Should we be telling Iran that they will not be hindered on our account?

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2012, 11:43:21 PM »
Iran should weigh all data on hand when making it's risk reward decisions. Including whether it is being sandbagged.

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Re: Bombing Iran would be stupid
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2012, 01:52:12 PM »
We should tell Iran that we do not want them to develop nuclear weapons or attack anyone.

But to start a preemptive war would be a disaster.
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