Author Topic: Can Marco Rubio manage money?  (Read 8741 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Xavier_Onassis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27916
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« on: June 14, 2015, 02:00:56 PM »
He has not been all that great at managing his own money.
He charged a paving job at his home to the Republican Party's Charge card. 

Sen. Rubio’s money woes worrisome
Carl Hiaasen
   Marco Rubio has a good backstory, and he enjoys telling it.

   Hardworking immigrant parents, humble beginnings in South Florida — and now he’s a U.S. senator running for president at age 44.

   It’s a stirring, up-by-the-bootstraps tale, if you leave out the credit-card mix-ups, unpaid mortgage and $80,000 speedboat.

   On the campaign trail, Rubio promises in scolding tones to rein in government spending, yet in his personal life he has displayed absolutely no talent for managing money.

   The idea of him sitting in the Oval Office with billions at stake is a little scary. To believe that prudence and competence will suddenly bloom when he gets a crack at the federal budget is optimistic in the extreme.

   Rubio’s struggles to handle his own checkbook have been well chronicled by this newspaper and other Florida media. A few years ago he was caught nicking the state Republican Party’s American Express card for more than $16,000 in personal expenses, including travel to a family reunion and a paving job at his home.

   Rubio said he accidentally took out the wrong credit to pay for the stone pavers, and that a travel agent mistakenly billed the GOP account for the reunion charges. All the money was repaid after reporters started asking questions.

   While in the state Legislature, where he eventually became Speaker of the House, Rubio set up political-action committees. One of them gave him thousands of dollars in reimbursements for auto expenses, gas and phone bills. That PAC was, on paper, run by his wife.

   Rubio also jointly bought a house in Tallahassee with his close pal, then-state representative and future U.S. congressman David Rivera, one of the sleaziest slugs to ever attain public office in South Florida.

   During one stretch, Rubio and Rivera went five months without making any mortgage payments and were threatened with foreclosure.

   Two weeks ago, they finally unloaded the house at an $18,000 loss. (Rubio no longer hangs out with Rivera, who is the subject of a federal corruption investigation.)

   In his first book, the senator freely admitted his financial problems and mistakes.

   Ironically, the books have brought him more income than anything else, including his seldom-used law degree.

   In 2012, he received $800,000 to write about his experience as the son of Cuban immigrants. Rubio has proudly said that he used some of that money to pay off his law school loans.

   He doesn’t often talk about what else he spent the book money on: a 24-foot speedboat that cost $80,000. The purchase came to light last week, when the New York Times took a fresh look at Rubio’s finances.

   We get it about the boat. You live in Miami, you want to channel your inner Sonny Crockett on Biscayne Bay.

   That’s terrific, if you can afford it.

   Not so terrific if you’re trying to build a nest egg for your young family.

   Reviewing Rubio’s financial disclosure forms, the Times found that he earned $2.38 million from 1998 to 2008, yet he saved so little that his net worth at the end of that 10-year period was only about $53,000.

   This is a man who spends money when he gets his hands on it.

   Which lots and lots of regular folks do. The difference is, they don’t want to be president, and they don’t pretend to be qualified to decide our national fiscal policy.

   To Rubio’s credit, during the last three years his savings have grown by about $150,000, boosted by a second hefty book deal. He and his wife have opened college accounts for their four kids and refinanced their main residence, reducing the monthly mortgage payments.

   You see that and think maybe the senator’s growing up. Maybe he’s getting money-managing tips from Norman Braman, the auto tycoon who employs Rubio’s wife and is also his biggest campaign donor.

   Then you see other moves and think nothing’s changed.

   Last year Rubio closed a retirement account holding $68,000 in savings. Most financial advisers would never tell a client to do that, because the taxes and early-withdrawal fees are so high.

Article by Carl Hiaasen in the Miami Herald.

   There’s no reason to cash out a retirement account at age 44 unless you’re totally clueless, or frantic for money. Depending on Rubio’s income bracket, his loss in taxes and penalties was $24,000 or more.

   That’s a brutal hit, and for what?

   Rubio said he needed to use his retirement fund for personal expenses associated with his upcoming presidential campaign — and also a new refrigerator.

   Unless Sub-Zero makes a gold-plated model, he paid too much.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

Plane

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26993
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2015, 07:55:40 PM »
  If the Clinton experience is any guide, the presidency will make him a millionaire quickly.

Xavier_Onassis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27916
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2015, 08:00:55 PM »
Clinton did not get to be a millionaire all that quickly.
He is a great speaker, among other things.
In my opinion, Rubio is not likely to make it through to the nomination.

Rubio got over two million in income and after ten years, all he had left were around $50,000. I wonder if he has a gambling problem.

He cashed in his retirement, ostensibly to run for president and to buy a new fridge. He had to pay some stiff penalties, around $20K to do this.

I do not think we actually want the country run the way Rubio runs his own life.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

Plane

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26993
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2015, 08:59:38 PM »
Did Clinton run the country the way he ran his household?

Did Clinton even make a distinction between the two?

How can I even tell that M. Rubio's money problems are not being exaggerated in the same way that B. Clintons have been minimized?

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11139
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2015, 09:23:47 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

Xavier_Onassis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27916
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2015, 10:54:51 PM »
The figures are accurate, as Rubio does not challenge them. This is entirely unrelated to Clinton.  No one is afraid of Rubio, that is crap.
That is what sounds like unproven propaganda. 

The guy charged an expensive trip for his entire family on a GOP credit card, and then charged cement work on the same card. It was only after he got caught at it that he actually paid his bills on his own, Had the Miami Herald not run the story, he would have let the GOP pay for his crap.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27078
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2015, 10:56:16 PM »
This is what this is really about:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/06/14/liberals_fear_marco_rubio_126971.html

Is it any wonder that the left keeps validating Krauthammer's commentary on how Rubio scares the snot out of the Democrats?    8)
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Xavier_Onassis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27916
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2015, 11:00:37 PM »
No one is validating crap.

Krauthammer is a dolt, only the right wingers pay him any attention.

The fact is, Rubio is terrible at managing money, he ignores traffic signs and lights and speed limits. He is what was once called in Cuba a "señorito".

There is in Spain what could be described as a señorito class, often Andalusian. The señorito andaluz is from a well-off family, does not work, and is only interested in enjoying himself.
"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

Plane

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 26993
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2015, 11:13:31 PM »
..............................a "señorito".


Is this better understood as "little Mister" or "small Master"?


Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11139
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2015, 11:32:57 PM »
he ignores traffic signs and lights and speed limits.

yes 4 traffic tickets for Marco Rubio in 17 years is just unacceptable!

Liberal Jon Stewart on Rubio "phony NY Times scandals"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBNb7aHKHaU



« Last Edit: June 14, 2015, 11:42:11 PM by Christians4LessGvt »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27078
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2015, 11:51:01 PM »
No one is validating crap.

Of course you are.  He must scare the beejeebees out of you guys, because of all the mountains you're trying to make out of molehills.  Seriously, look at the hyperbole, 4 tickets in 17 years is some major flagrant law breaking??  So, you'd rather he be chauffeured everywhere, like one of the "middle class regular folks".  Oh wait, that's your gal.  He buys a fishing boat with his own money, and somehow he's some massive big spender of million dollar yachts??  You'd rather he be chartered everywhere on the tax payer's dime?  Oh yea, that's Hillary again.  The way you guys try to tear him as some uber-rich kid, make it sound like he has his own foundation where he can take in billions from foreign interests & uber-rich donors.  Oh wait, that'd be Hill again

You see, everything you're trying to paint Rubio with, Hillary has it, in spades.  But she has the right letter after her name, which of course, justifies the rank hypocrisy

« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 05:58:48 AM by sirs »
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11139
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2015, 12:10:13 AM »
SIRS....it's all about this.
They realize they have a looming disaster on their hands
and need to try to help this terribly flawed candidate.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/06/14/hillarys-epic-fail-where-were-the-adoring-throngs-for-her-campaigns-new-launch-213692
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987

sirs

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27078
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2015, 01:12:08 AM »
It's so transparent.  Notice the overt effort to make this ONLY about Rubio.  Hillary is not allowed to be brought into the conversation......because, when the comparison is made......I mean, it really becomes laughable when the claim is made about politicians going to the highest bidder.  Last I checked, Rubio doesn't have a foundation that has taken in billions from massive rich donors, foreign interests, even foreign governments.  Noooooo, we need to focus on 4 fricken parking tickets as the end all for being disqualified to be President     :o
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

Xavier_Onassis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 27916
    • View Profile
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2015, 11:03:28 AM »
No one said one damned thing about parking tickets. And this is NOT ABOUT HILLARY.

If you hire a lawyer to defend your tickets, it does not go on your record. If you know somebody, the infraction can be erased. Rubio knew LOTS of influential people and lawyers and even with all that, he got four tickets, after all the usual machinations had been exhausted.

How is it that Rubio using the Republican Party credit cards for his own home improvements, and his own spendthrift ways not say something about his ability to manage money?  Rubio is a taker.

And he is NOT running against Hillary at this point: he is running against Jebbie, Christie, Graham, Walker and a dozen more fellow Republicans.

At this moment the issue is what sort of candidate he'd make.  All this stuff and probably more will come out before the primaries are over.

Krauthammer's record at predictions tend to be waaaay off.

"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."

Christians4LessGvt

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11139
    • View Profile
    • "The Religion Of Peace"
  • Liked:
  • Likes Given: 0
Re: Can Marco Rubio manage money?
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2015, 02:02:33 PM »
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Ronald Reagan - June 12, 1987