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STUDIES SHOW: FELONS SMARTER THAN LIBERALS
by Ann Coulter
July 4, 2007
Just in time for the Fourth of July, John Lott, author of the groundbreaking 1998 book "More Guns, Less Crime," has released another amazing book: "Freedomnomics: Why the Free Market Works and Other Half-Baked Theories Don't." This book provides studies and analysis proving that your every right-wing instinct is based on sound economic analysis.
To wit:
? Women shouldn't vote: "What changed ... that explains the growth of government? The answer is women's suffrage."
? Fox News Channel isn't conservative: "Even employees of Fox News, which is widely regarded as a conservative channel, donate 81 percent of their contributions to Democrats."
? Public schools are government re-education camps: "(P)ublic education was actually designed to spread government-approved values."
? Nothing good has come from abortion: "(A)bortion, in fact, increases crime."
? Felons vote Democrat: "Remarkably, it looks as if virtually all felons are Democrats."
To make your flights even more enjoyable this summer, consider this interesting incentive system described by Lott: "To receive disability benefits due to job-related stress, air traffic controllers must present a well-documented stressful incident ? a collision or close call ? that has caused a deterioration in their performance. Unsurprisingly, when it became easier to file for disability, flights suddenly started experiencing more 'close calls.'"
Say, wouldn't it be even more stressful, deserving of a greater disability payment, if the near-miss involved an Iranian Air jet?
Lott shows that there are pretty clear answers to what lowers the crime rate, what increases the crime rate and what doesn't have any effect at all. Despite their popularity as explanations for the remarkable drop in crime in the '90s, the aging of the population and the enforcement of quality-of-life crimes both had virtually no effect.
What did work was higher arrest and conviction rates, concealed-carry laws and the reinstitution of the death penalty. "Generally, the studies found," Lott writes, "that each execution saved the lives of roughly 15 to 18 potential murder victims." So basically, there's a much bigger death penalty for having no death penalty.
Meanwhile, gun locks and gun self-storage laws lead to more deaths, for the obvious reason that if the owner can't get to his gun in time, the beneficial effect of having a gun is lost. Lott also shows that crime skyrocketed in cities that implemented affirmative action policies that lowered allegedly "biased" and "irrelevant" tests for cops.
Speaking of crime, there's even something for Paris Hilton in this book! Lott says that "when we analyze the overall consequences a criminal faces after conviction, we find a surprising result: Rich criminals face disproportionately high penalties."
The Los Angeles Times recently did an analysis of jail sentences for Hilton's precise offense: i.e., driving with a suspended license after being arrested for drunk driving. The majority of these offenders served four days, exactly what Hilton got ? until she was returned to prison. By serving her full 23 days, Hilton served more time than 80 percent of people arrested for the same offense.
In addition to losing their reputations, their inheritances and generally their spouses, according to Lott, wealthy felons also earn less money post-conviction than poor defendants. Not relative to their prior salaries, but in direct comparison. "Amazingly," Lott says, "after controlling for a variety of social and demographic factors, wealthier ex?convicts on average earn a lower salary after their conviction than poorer ex-convicts."
Let's hope so. Felons are usually Democrats. As Lott notes: "Michael Milken, Martha Stewart and Leona Helmsley share something in common besides being convicted felons ? they are all Democrats. While their wealth sets them apart from the typical felon, their party registration is the same as most former convicts."
I believe this point was subtly highlighted when Willie Horton told the press in 1988 that of course he supported Michael Dukakis for president. "According to academic studies," Lott says, "from 1972 to 1996, on average, 80 percent of felons would have voted Democratic. An overwhelming 93 percent ostensibly would have voted for Bill Clinton in 1996."
This is not because, as you might imagine, blacks have high crime rates and also happen to be overwhelmingly Democratic. Lott compares the voting patterns of felons and nonfelons, controlling for race, age, education level, religious habits, employment, age and country of residence. Wholly apart from all these factors, felons were still more likely to vote Democratic. Indeed, in the 2004 election, Lott says, felons in Washington state "voted exclusively for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry."
With so many felons being Democrats, the party might want to think about changing its mascot from a donkey to a jailbird.
Needless to say, Democrats are neurotically obsessed with restoring the right to vote to felons. But the ex-cons themselves rarely express any interest in regaining this particular right. What ex-cons want is the right to own a gun. "Felons," Lott says, "who frequently live in poor, high-crime neighborhoods, want to be able to defend themselves."
So the evidence is in on that one, too: Preferring the right to bear arms to the right to vote (for choice), convicted felons have a superior value system to liberals.
COPYRIGHT 2007 ANN COULTER
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4520 Main Street, Kansas City, MO 64111
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This is obviously because Repubs are the felons in your & Annie's minds.
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>>This is obviously because Repubs are the felons in your & Annie's minds.<<
I'm always amused and more than slightly amazed at what passes for thinking from liberals/communists.
Talk about projecting!
They supported a reprobate liar in Bill Clinton, so what's their complaint about GWB? Why he's a liar of course. Projection par excellence!
Now Queen Ann points out that liberals/communists court felons ... what does the liberal do? Why he/she calls me a felon.
Get a clue.
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Did Ann Coulter just argue that women should not be allowed to vote?
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No.
She pointed out the correlation between women getting the vote and the growth of government.
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No.
She pointed out the correlation between women getting the vote and the growth of government.
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There is an even greater correlation between the growth of government and the national consumption of frozen vegetables.
But she failed to point this out.
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>>This is obviously because Repubs are the felons in your & Annie's minds.<<
I'm always amused and more than slightly amazed at what passes for thinking from liberals/communists.
Talk about projecting!
They supported a reprobate liar in Bill Clinton, so what's their complaint about GWB? Why he's a liar of course. Projection par excellence!
Now Queen Ann points out that liberals/communists court felons ... what does the liberal do? Why he/she calls me a felon.
Get a clue.
You & Annie are stupid, hatefilled & humorless. Three out of three aint bad.
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>>You & Annie are stupid, hatefilled & humorless. Three out of three aint bad.<<
A personal attack?
<chuckle>
Besides, Ann is hilarious!!!
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<chuckle>
Besides, Ann is hilarious!!!
Then you must consider Adolph Hitler a laugh RIOT! (right)
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And you're a big fan of Mao!
:D
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This book provides studies and analysis proving that your every right-wing instinct is based on sound economic analysis.
To wit:
? Women shouldn't vote: "What changed ... that explains the growth of government? The answer is women's suffrage."
She pointed out the correlation between women getting the vote and the growth of government.
No, I think she said women shouldn't vote. I know I could be wrong. It's happened before. But she did say "Women shouldn't vote", so I'm gonna have to go with that she said women shouldn't vote. Of course, last time I bothered to question the words of Ann Coulter, I was told that she meant something other than what she actually said. I still haven't figured out how that process works. It seems to be something like the way the Oracle at Delphi worked. Coulter says something that makes no sense, and then others come and interpret the ramblings for the rest of us. But I have to say, still looks to me like she said women shouldn't vote.
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FYI, Ann Coulter has questioned women having the right to vote before.
Who exactly has the vote who shouldn't have? "Women," she says, laughing. "It's true. It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950--except Goldwater in '64--the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted."
http://www.counterpunch.org/freedland05192003.html (http://www.counterpunch.org/freedland05192003.html)
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No, SHE didn't say anything. SHE quoted the author.
Where did she say women shouldn't vote?
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Good grief, talk about humorless.
And damn! This guy is obsessed with Queen Ann! I'm sure it's all bullshit. Just another liberal/communist fantasy.
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No, SHE didn't say anything. SHE quoted the author.
Where did she say women shouldn't vote?
Uh, I quoted that part already. Here, I'll do it again.
This book provides studies and analysis proving that your every right-wing instinct is based on sound economic analysis.
To wit:
? Women shouldn't vote: "What changed ... that explains the growth of government? The answer is women's suffrage."
Notice that 1) she is agreeing with the book and the quote, and 2) the phrase "Women shouldn't vote" is outside of the quote from the book. So again, I have to go with that she said women shouldn't vote.
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Chalk this up as being one of those times.
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Chalk this up as being one of those times.
Chalk it up to being one of those times that Ann Coulter is proven to be anti-American?
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lol ...
Anti-american ...
Coming from a communist, that's funny as hell. But hey, keep reaching for those lies. It's what you people do best. Kept the Soviets in power for almost 80 years.
:D
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lol ...
Anti-american ...
Coming from a communist, that's funny as hell. But hey, keep reaching for those lies. It's what you people do best. Kept the Soviets in power for almost 80 years.
:D
So, wanting to keep women from having the vote is an American stance in your mind?
Just seeking clarification.
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Spare me. You're all about obfuscation, not clarification.
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Chalk this up as being one of those times.
If you mean one of those times when Coulter means something other than what she said, um, no, I'm not going to do that. She has on at least two other occasions, that I can find so far (http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter#Women), said specifically that women should not vote. And I'm getting to the point where I might be convinced that Ann Coulter should not vote.
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No, on of those times you're wrong.
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Okay, then show me how Coulter did not say what she said.
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Yeah, I thought that would be your response.
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Well, when the truth hurts I suppose.
Please, read for content. Look for quote marks ... get back to me.
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Please, read for content. Look for quote marks ... get back to me.
We've been over this. Reply #14. Again, show me how Coulter did not say what she said.
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Okay, you're correct. Coulter is advocating taking the vote away from women.
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So you admit you have no way to support your own assertion? Okay. I'm glad we cleared that up.
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Women have the vote.
We have a nearly equal historical period in which they did not.
What was he difrence it made to government?
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>>This is obviously because Repubs are the felons in your & Annie's minds.<<
I'm always amused and more than slightly amazed at what passes for thinking from liberals/communists.
Talk about projecting!
They supported a reprobate liar in Bill Clinton, so what's their complaint about GWB? Why he's a liar of course. Projection par excellence!
Now Queen Ann points out that liberals/communists court felons ... what does the liberal do? Why he/she calls me a felon.
Get a clue.
You & Annie are stupid, hatefilled & humorless. Three out of three aint bad.
Someitmes, your IQ comes out to be less than an artichoke. Too bad. Why not rationally articulate your position or are you limited to the missionary one as you have no vision or creativity?
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I'm crushed ... really.
:D
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Well, actually, my comment was directed to Mucho, so you can now feel very relieved. I know you lost sleep over it. :-)
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Well, actually, my comment was directed to Mucho, so you can now feel very relieved. I know you lost sleep over it. :-)
See- He knows he is an artchoke and you now can join him & Ami in Vegieland.
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Hey, even vegetables are smarter than you, knuttia.
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Oh!
It's knutty!
I had forgotten all about him.