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Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:56:26 AM »
Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials

WASHINGTON (AP) ? President Bush, stepping up pressure on Syria, ordered new sanctions Wednesday to punish officials in Damascus for alleged efforts to undermine stability in Iraq and meddle in Lebanon's sovereignty and democracy.
Bush, in an executive order, said he was expanding penalties against senior government officials in Syria and their associates deemed to be responsible for ? or to have benefited from ? public corruption. The order did not specifically name any officials.

Bush signed the order a day after Imad Mughniyeh, one of the world's most wanted and elusive terrorists, was killed in a car bombing in Syria nearly 15 years after dropping from sight. The one-time Hezbollah security chief was the suspected mastermind of attacks that killed hundreds of Americans in Lebanon and of the brutal kidnappings of Westerners.

"The world is a better place without this man in it," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. "One way or the other, he was brought to justice."

The White House said Wednesday's executive order built on one Bush issued in May 2004 that banned all U.S. exports to Syria except for food and medicine. His earlier action followed long-standing complaints that the Middle Eastern nation was supporting terrorism and undermining U.S. efforts in Iraq.

The 2004 order also banned flights to and from the United States; authorized the Treasury Department to freeze assets of Syrian nationals and entities involved in terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, occupation of Lebanon or terrorism in Iraq; and restricted banking relations between U.S. banks and the Syrian national bank.

The U.S. had complained that Syria was supporting militant groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah and failing to stop guerrillas from crossing the border into Iraq.

A White House statement on Wednesday said Syria was undermining efforts to stabilize Iraq and allowing Syrian territory to be used for that purpose.

Syria's government "continues to pursue other activities that deny the Syrian people the political freedoms and economic prosperity they deserve, and that undercut the peace and stability of the region," according to the statement.

"Syria continues to undermine Lebanon's sovereignty and democracy, imprison democracy advocates, curtail human rights and sponsor and harbor terrorists," it said. "The United States will continue to stand with the people of Syria and the region as they seek to exercise their rights peacefully and to build a brighter future." Lebanon is gripped by turmoil as Syrian-supported Hezbollah struggles for power with the U.S.-backed government.

Just last June, Bush signed a proclamation barring U.S. entry to people it says are undermining the stability of Lebanon and its government.

Syria held political and military sway in tiny neighboring Lebanon for some three decades. Besides armed troops on Beirut streets, Syrian intelligence forces were often a shadowy but pervasive force in Lebanese daily life.

 
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 10:13:03 AM »
<<Just last June, Bush signed a proclamation barring U.S. entry to people it says are undermining the stability of Lebanon and its government.>>

Yes, it's just terrible when one country undermines the sovereignty and/or stability of another.  Shows disrespect for international law, I think.  Fuckin' Syrans!  They're a disgrace.

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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 10:23:32 AM »
hopefully the bomb that killed Hizballah's military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus this week is the
beginning of a campaign to wipe out Hizballah's entire leadership (Nasrallah where are you? - lol - you're next) as well as the leadership in Iran and Syria. they need to be made to understand blowing up Lebanese politicians and United States soldiers has a very high and very painful cost that is unbearable for them to tolerate.
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 10:43:06 AM »
hopefully the bomb that killed Hizballah's military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus this week is the
beginning of a campaign to wipe out Hizballah's entire leadership (Nasrallah where are you? - lol - you're next) as well as the leadership in Iran and Syria. they need to be made to understand blowing up Lebanese politicians and United States soldiers has a very high and very painful cost that is unbearable for them to tolerate.

You gotta admit the terrorist leaders are pretty shrewd to have made it this far, at least most if them anyway. Of course, always being on the road trying to step one step ahead of the next Predator run must be a tough life, but they made decisions they are responsible for. I, too, hope "they get theirs". And, asbestos won't help them where they are going, either. I had a friend who was critically injured i the Beirut bombing; yet aqnother reason to have NO sympathy for these scumbags.
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 12:10:26 PM »
You gotta admit the terrorist leaders are pretty shrewd to have made it this far, at
least most if them anyway. Of course, always being on the road trying to step one
step ahead of the next Predator run must be a tough life


thats what alot of morons don't get
they scream "well Bush hasn't got Bin Laden"
the point is we are on the offense
keeping these IslamoNazis on the run is half the battle
if they have to worry every second about a missle from a predator coming down their chimney
it makes them less effective

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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 12:13:01 PM »
But, we DO need to get Bin Laden and we SHOULD HAVE gotten him during the initial offensive. No excuses....
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 12:15:17 PM »
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But, we DO need to get Bin Laden and we SHOULD HAVE gotten him during the initial offensive. No excuses....

why?

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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 12:22:42 PM »
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But, we DO need to get Bin Laden and we SHOULD HAVE gotten him during the initial offensive. No excuses....

why?


He was the mastermind so he needs to go before his Maker and explain himself. We, as gracious hosts, should provide him with that splendid opportunity.
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 12:24:51 PM »
<<hopefully the bomb that killed Hizballah's military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus this week is the
beginning of a campaign to wipe out Hizballah's entire leadership (Nasrallah where are you? >>

The definition of insanity - - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. 

In case anyone has forgotten, Nasrallah became the leader of Hezbollah when the Israelis killed the leader before him.  When Nasrallah goes, another leader will step up to replace him.  New leaders bring courage, vision, a willingness to die for the cause, and the inspiration of other leaders who have gone before them, each building one step at a time into the Palestinian future - - a future of liberation from Zionist oppression and tyranny and an end to Zionist-Amerikkkan domination of their region. 

Wouldn't America be better served building that future in partnership with them?

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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 12:34:34 PM »
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He was the mastermind so he needs to go before his Maker and explain himself. We, as gracious hosts, should provide him with that splendid opportunity.

At what cost?


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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 12:51:46 PM »
The definition of insanity - - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result

So it's not insanity when the Iranian/Syrian/Hezbollah side blows up Lebanese politicians
and blow up American soldiers, but it is insane if we use the same tactic? How about
they get to use their power and we just surrender?

In case anyone has forgotten, Nasrallah became the leader of Hezbollah when the Israelis
killed the leader before him.  When Nasrallah goes, another leader will step up to replace him.


And when they kidnap or kill an Israeli soldier there will be another to replace him.

New leaders bring courage vision, a willingness to die for the cause, and the inspiration of
other leaders who have gone before them,


Again that works both ways.

each building one step at a time into the Palestinian future -

There is no future until they stop being terrorist.
Their lives suck and will continue to suck until they accept Israel.
No ands, if's, or but's about it.
It is a fact.

a future of liberation from Zionist oppression and tyranny and an end to
Zionist-Amerikkkan domination of their region.
 

Yes I suppose Israel should just surrender and become oppressed by the Islamist.
Yeah that would be real smart.
Israel has as much right as anybody else does.

All people/societies/countries/nations where-ever they are most likely at one time took
the land they now "own" from somebody else. The US "took" land from "Indians". Alot
of those "Indians" proabably took the same territory from somebody else at some point in history.
Current day Canada took land inhabited for millennia by aboriginal people. Canada evolved
from a group of European colonies. Is Israel going to give back their territory any more than
the US, Canada, or anyone else for that matter?

Wouldn't America be better served building that future in partnership with them?

Wouldn't the Palestinians be better served by siding with the US?
See the quality of life standards in Japan, South Korea, ect for evidence.
Again their lives suck and will continue to suck, it's up to them.

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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 02:36:56 PM »
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He was the mastermind so he needs to go before his Maker and explain himself. We, as gracious hosts, should provide him with that splendid opportunity.

At what cost?



whatever a cruise missile costs.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 02:40:11 PM »
<<hopefully the bomb that killed Hizballah's military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus this week is the
beginning of a campaign to wipe out Hizballah's entire leadership (Nasrallah where are you? >>

The definition of insanity - - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. 

In case anyone has forgotten, Nasrallah became the leader of Hezbollah when the Israelis killed the leader before him.  When Nasrallah goes, another leader will step up to replace him.  New leaders bring courage, vision, a willingness to die for the cause, and the inspiration of other leaders who have gone before them, each building one step at a time into the Palestinian future - - a future of liberation from Zionist oppression and tyranny and an end to Zionist-Amerikkkan domination of their region. 

Wouldn't America be better served building that future in partnership with them?

You said: "The definition of insanity - - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. "

You mean as the Palestinians are doing? They only hurt themselves, financially, socially and so on, by doing the same thing over and over as do terrorists in general. They'll get theirs eventually. Keep up terroist activity and they'll be insane, is that what you are saying, MT, or that they are already insane since they keep doing the same thing over and over?
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 02:44:29 PM »
"You said: "The definition of insanity - - doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting a different result. " You mean as the Palestininas are doing?"


No Professor, if the side Mchael agrees with is ruthless in war it is not
insane, but if the side he disagrees with is ruthless, now that is insane.
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Re: Bush orders sanctions against Syrian officials
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 03:06:46 PM »
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whatever a cruise missile costs.

simple answer to a complex question.