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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2013, 08:05:05 PM »
It is wonderfull to see a liberal growing more mature and wise.

Unfortunately only a certain number can go through the entire process that Mahaer experienced, seeing thequestion from both sides.

It is as if when Pizza was brought to the table , everyone got a slice or two, but the bill was presented to just one, and the guy that gets the bill shouts "Hey! I have to pay for this? I made the Pizza!"

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2013, 11:48:56 AM »
Maher can easily afford to pay his taxes. He should stop bitching
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2013, 12:52:24 PM »
this isn't exactly brain surgery....over the last century....where people are highly compensated for creativity you see the highest standards of living and the most game-changing innovations.
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2013, 02:08:34 PM »
and ONE MORE TIME: the actual creative people get a minuscule amount of the rewards.

People who keep saying this are not the creative ones. And if they are, they are more often repeating stuff they heard from their accountants.

Capitalism is NOT FAIR. Everyone knows this. But there are many assholes who think that somehow it was sent from God to reward them anyway.
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2013, 08:09:45 PM »
Communism isn't fair either.

Life isn't fair, the sooner everyone realizes this the better off we will be.

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2013, 12:06:13 AM »
and ONE MORE TIME: the actual creative people get a minuscule amount of the rewards.

People who keep saying this are not the creative ones. And if they are, they are more often repeating stuff they heard from their accountants.

Capitalism is NOT FAIR. Everyone knows this. But there are many assholes who think that somehow it was sent from God to reward them anyway.

What is more fair than Capitolism?

When someone creates a value , what makes it fair to force him to split it with someone elese?

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2013, 12:54:11 AM »
Social Democracy, as in Denmark, is FAR more fair.

Capitalism is just a tool. If you worship it, you are a dunce.

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2013, 02:18:52 AM »
Socialism is just a tool.  If you worship it, you're a dunce
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2013, 02:30:56 AM »
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Social Democracy, as in Denmark, is FAR more fair.

Is fair defined by being able to reach your full potential, or is fair defined by what the planners say is fair?


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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2013, 08:29:24 AM »
What planners?

I don't worship anything. The most successful society is the one that gives the greatest potential to the greatest number. Socialism and Capitalism are simply tools used to attain the best possible society for the greatest number.

The individual determines his direction and the degree of his success. That isn't up to any planners.
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2013, 11:41:34 AM »
So who then is "worshipping" Capitalism?

And I agree, that the most successful societies are the ones that provide the greatest opportunity to the greatest number of people.  Capitalism does exactly that, minus the taking away from others that Socialism requires
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2013, 04:18:48 PM »
What planners?

I don't worship anything. The most successful society is the one that gives the greatest potential to the greatest number. Socialism and Capitalism are simply tools used to attain the best possible society for the greatest number.

The individual determines his direction and the degree of his success. That isn't up to any planners.

This is not true at all in a socialist society where you are predetermined at a early teen age as to what your career path will be.

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2013, 04:31:35 PM »
So true
"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle

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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2013, 05:53:57 PM »
This is not true at all in a socialist society where you are predetermined at a early teen age as to what your career path will be.

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There is no such determination in any of the Scandinavian countries. What you say is not even true in Cuba.

In the US, a person's career path is greatly affected by their family and how much money that have.

There is certainly no equal opportunity for anyone to get into or graduate from Harvard, Stanford, Yale, or even the major state run universities.
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Re: The Reality of wealth distribution in this country
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2013, 06:28:52 PM »
This is not true at all in a socialist society where you are predetermined at a early teen age as to what your career path will be.
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In the US, a person's career path is greatly affected by their family and how much money that have.

Which has nothing to do with the Government........which is the key difference here.  There is no right to equal outcomes, only the opportunity.  and if you need a copius amount of examples of those who went from poverty to one of 'the rich", such a list can be provided for, which would refute the notion that there is no equal opportunity under a Capitalist system.  For some its harder, but the door is never closed

Ironically, its apparently easier to get into some Ivy league schools, if you're merely a different race, than caucasion.  Point being anyone can, if they have the grades and perserverence.  Having alumni and/or rich booster club members does help as well

"The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle