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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on September 03, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
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Understanding How Modern Liberals Think (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODXgGS50AVY#)
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You do not know how "liberals" think, and neither does the cryptofascist Heritage Foundation.
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You do not know how "liberals" think, and neither does the cryptofascist Heritage Foundation.
Is he wrong about you?
How do you reguard an iconoclast?
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He is wrong about everything.
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How do you reguard an iconoclast?
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Who is an iconoclast?
What does that have to do with anything?
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Icon
Clast
Someone who throws down the sacred.
Someone who challenges the mores of society.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/iconoclast (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/iconoclast)
i·con·o·clast
? ?[ahy-kon-uh-klast]
noun
1.
a person who attacks cherished beliefs, traditional institutions, etc., as being based on error or superstition.
2.
a breaker or destroyer of images, especially those set up for religious veneration.
Origin:
1590–1600; < Medieval Latin ?conoclast?s < Medieval Greek eikonoklást?s, equivalent to Greek eikono- icono- + -klast?s breaker, equivalent to klas- (variant stem of klân to break) + -t?s agent noun suffix
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Who is an iconoclast?
What does that have to do with anything?
Iconoclast is a type of person.
Tipified by behavior and thought.
How you think of this behavior and thought would be an answer to my question.
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I know what an Iconoclast is.
I asked WHO is an iconoclast.
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Wouldn't making the iconoclast specific make my question less clear?
That would be like asking how you liked Lenin or Teddy Rosevelt which you could answer on the basis of their aims and results and methods.
But this is not the subject of the article at the head of the thread, it is the idea that it is good to oppose the established order in any way that can be , i.e. "change is good".
I won't mind if your answer is nuanced , as long as I am able to understand the most of it.
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Your question is vague.
I have no idea why you keep harping on the iconoclast thing.
I have never said that all change is good. I am pretty sure that changes that would make the Heritage Foundation happy would not be the sort I favor. They are an assemblage of tycoons who fancy themselves to the Big Swinging Dicks that run this country.
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I think I did get an answer.
You do not feel that change is good for its own sake and do not favor overthrow of old mores {icons} without specific reason.
So this article does not describve your attitude.
This reminds me of a few years ago , one of us posted an article about how conservatives think. That author thought that Liberals thought of Government as motherly and conservatives tjhought of it as fatherly. I found the premise very poorlly thought out , no real conservative would consider Government as a parent of any description.
Reminds me also of ow valuable it is to ask the real thing the real question, as I describe how a liberal thinks , I am mostly goinng to be guessing.
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Of course I am not in favor of change for the hell of it.
That attitude seems to be similar to the goofy flock of NeoCon interrns that Juniorbush sent to Iraq to take over: they wanted a libertarian state and they even wanted to change for national flag. They were a total disaster, and a major stimuli for the uprising that followed.