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3DHS / Re: More on Al Qaeda In Iraq
« on: July 28, 2007, 09:15:11 PM »
The problem is that conflicts such as Iraq are not a good fit for this type of military might.

the type of conflict is not really the problem
the problem is the will or lack of to destroy an enemy
if we cut and run and the iranian military rolls into iraq
i assure you their military will not put up with the stuff we are putting up with
iran has the will to destroy their enemies
we don't, at least not yet
it's a bit ironic
we have the hardware
but not the will
iran has the will
but not the hardware


11102
3DHS / Re: Fisherman arrested for stabbing bait-stealing sea lion
« on: July 28, 2007, 07:21:34 PM »
are you implying we need to enact new federal knife laws?

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3DHS / Re: socialized medicine
« on: July 28, 2007, 01:30:13 PM »
I was rushed to hospital with a heart attack

i am sorry that happened and hope you are doing better
but there is data that suggests better outcomes with heart attacks with United States healthcare system than the canadian sytem.

Americans are more likely to live longer after a heart attack than their neighbors to the north, and a new study shows more aggressive care may be the reason. Researchers say heart attack patients in the U.S. are more likely to be treated aggressively with surgical procedures to repair clogged or damaged arteries, such as angioplasty or bypass surgery, than more conservative treatment with clot-busting drugs alone.The study shows that the conservative pattern of care in Canada might be having a negative effect on mortality rates from heart disease in that country.
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20040920/us-tops-canada-in-post-heart-attack-care


In a previous substudy of the GUSTO-I trial, we observed better functional and quality-of-life outcomes among patients in the United States (US patients) compared with patients in Canada. Rates of invasive therapy were significantly higher in the United States
Our results suggest, for the first time, that the more conservative pattern of care with regard to early revascularization in Canada for ST-segment elevation acute myocardial infarction may have a detrimental effect on long-term survival. Our results have important policy implications for cardiac care in countries and healthcare systems wherein use of invasive procedures is similarly conservative

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/110/13/1754


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3DHS / Re: socialized medicine
« on: July 28, 2007, 01:09:01 PM »
From the richest to the poorest, that service is available to any Canadian, even refugees.

thats obviously not what the Canadian Supreme Court said:

June 2005
The Canadian Supreme Court of Canada ruled Thursday that the Quebec government cannot prevent people from paying for private insurance for health-care procedures covered under medicare. In a 4-3 decision, the panel of seven justices said banning private insurance for a list of services ranging from MRI tests to cataract surgery was unconstitutional under the Quebec Charter of Rights, given that the public system has failed to guarantee patients access to those services in a timely way. As a result of delays in receiving tests and surgeries, patients have suffered and even died in some cases, justices Beverley McLachlin, Jack Major, Michel Bastarache and Marie Deschamps found for the majority.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/06/09/newscoc-health050609.html


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3DHS / Re: socialized medicine
« on: July 28, 2007, 10:44:20 AM »
In your postulation, anyone who is alive and breathing would be required to purchase health insurance.

no my postulation does not say that
it says means testing is a part of the answer to this complicated matter
16% of US population are without medical insurance
actually in a way means testing would also happen under a full fledged gvt run program anyway....via the tax system
there are millions and millions of americans that can afford health insurance but choose not to purchase it
then when they get sick they run to public healthcare facilities, it amounts to welfare to people that don't need it
anyone above a certain income level would be required to carry health insurance or be garnished into a gvt/private healthcare system
this would greatly reduce the "freeloader burden" on our healthcare system (not the whole answer, but one part)
there are many ways people can carry heath insurance without "purchasing it"
through employment based medical insurance(about 60% of americans), through tax subsidy, through medical savings accounts, ect

if you stop providing non-americans/illegals free routine medical care and stop providing medical care to those that can really afford it but choose to spend those dollars elsewhere it would leave a smaller pool of uninsured to deal with, it would shrink the "problem"
then you can deal with many of those that really can not afford medical insurance with tax breaks/medical savings accounts/ect

i don't pretend to have the whole answer, but in my opinion the last thing we need is the people that run our "out of control" borders, that run Walter Reed Hospital, that run our failing education system, that run the post office, that run congress, is to run our healthcare


11106
3DHS / Re: Racism in 2007
« on: July 28, 2007, 07:30:18 AM »
when it was a predominantly African America audience, when the topic came up of mixed marriages, it became dowright hostile, any time the notion of a black man was to marry or was simply seeing a white female

i saw a show once where a black speaker said basically the following:
do the math
if you mix 12% black with 80% white
which race over time gets "watered down" to the point of non-existence?
if you keep mixing 12% black with 80% white, after a certain time there is no more black
sure the white isn't as white, but at 80% vs 12%, the white is going to outlast and be much more preserved
don't believe it? try the same experiment with paint.....keep mixing 80% white and 12% black and see what you end up with
we want to preserve our heritage as african americans, our culture, our history, and most of all our color
this is the surest way to virtually eliminate and marginalize us
whites shouldn't fear this because they'll win this numbers game,
sure there are more blacks in the world, but i am talking african american hertiage, african american culture, which is unique
african americans should be the most concerned about losing their identity


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3DHS / Re: Youtube-CNN debate
« on: July 27, 2007, 11:10:31 PM »

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3DHS / Re: More on Al Qaeda In Iraq
« on: July 27, 2007, 10:13:22 PM »
Iraqi security forces & U.S. advisors battle Mahdi Army in Karbala
July 27, 2007
 
 
Karbala raid leads to pitched battle; five more members of Iranian-backed cells captured in separate raids

While al Qaeda in Iraq has been identified as the primary enemy by the U.S. military leadership in Iraq, Coalition and Iraq security forces have aggressively pursued the Iranian-backed "rogue" elements of the Mahdi Army and the Special Groups. Over the past two days, Iraqi security forces, backed by U.S. Special Forces advisors, conducted two raids against the Shia terror groups in Karbala and Baghdad, while another Coalition-led raid occurred in Diyala province. The Karbala raid sparked a large firefight, which resulted in 17 Mahdi Army fighters killed, with no U.S. or Iraqi military casualties reported.

The Karbala raid targeted the leader of "a rogue Jaysh al-Mahdi [JAM or Mahdi Army] assassination cell of over 100 armed members," Multinational Forces Iraq reported. The cell leader attacked Coalition forces with roadside bombs, mortars, and the deadly, armor-piercing, Iranian-supplied explosively formed penetrators. The cell was responsible for the assassination of two Iraqi government officials and several civilians.

The cell leader and two other suspects were captured, but the Iraqi and U.S. raiding force was attacked by Mahdi Army fighters with RPGs and machineguns. Five Mahdi Army fighters were killed in the gun battle, and another 12 were killed in a follow up airstrike.

Coalition forces also captured four members of the Iranian-backed Special Groups terror cells during a raid in the village of Qasarin in Diyala. The raid targeted a senior leader of a Special Groups smuggling cell. "The captured terrorists are suspected of facilitating the transport of weapons and personnel from Iran into Iraq," including explosively formed penetrators.

On July 26, the Iraqi Army captured a Mahdi Army cell leader in the Bayaa neighborhood in Baghdad. "The primary suspect is believed to command a rogue JAM improvised explosive device cell that is allegedly responsible for attacks on Coalition Forces," the Multinational Forces Iraq press release stated. "He is also alleged to have received financial support and explosively formed penetrators from Iran, which were distributed to other JAM cell members in the Bayaa and Aamel areas of Baghdad."

Multinational Forces Iraq and the Iraqi military have intensified the attacks on the Special Groups and the Iranian-supported elements of Mahdi Army since General David Petraeus briefed on the nature of the network on April 26, 2007.

The U.S. has been working to divide the Mahdi Army for well over a year, and have conducted numerous operations against the extremist elements of Muqtada al Sadr's militia. The Mahdi Army split apart shortly after Sadr and the Mahdi Army leadership fled to Iran after the onset of the Baghdad Security Plan. The Iranian-backed elements, called the "rogue Mahdi Army" by Multinational Forces Iraq, have been targeted at every opportunity by U.S. and Iraqi forces in Baghdad, Diwaniyah, Samawa, Karbala, Basra and throughout the South.

http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/07/iraqi_security_force_2.php

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3DHS / Re: When is war worth the fight?
« on: July 27, 2007, 05:57:47 PM »



oh and one more thing, it solved British rule of this country

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3DHS / Re: socialized medicine
« on: July 27, 2007, 04:09:08 PM »
profesor my solution to these issues must be brief due to work obligations:

mind you,there are no 100% perfect solution to most problems

iraq solution: inform iran if support/weapons are not stopped by Sept 1st the US will be begin bombing iranian military facilities kosevo style until the flow of iranian weapons and funds killing us soldiers, killing british soldiers, and iraqi soldiers stops. same exact treatment to syria.

immigration: build a 30 foot tall concrete wall, 10 feet thick, 3 stories deep.(it's worked in Isreal) if we can land on the moon, we can build the wall. let everyone stay that is curently here since we supposedly need them for the work no one else will do, just stop the bleeding or in other words cut off the huge influx where no more can come unless they come legally.

education: phase in voucher system - which is basically what our college system is - and our colleges are best in world

SS: phase in optional privatization

healthcare: stop covering illegals except emergency life/death, they are flooding and overwhelming our hospital emergency rooms, also phase in medical savings accounts - means test required health insurance much like required car insurance - uninsured people that make certain income would have medical insurance garnished just like child support. people that can afford health insurance and choose to not buy it then run to the public hospitals should be stopped. some people choose a new car or bigscreen tv and then claim "oh i cant afford health insurance".



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3DHS / Re: socialized medicine
« on: July 27, 2007, 03:40:08 PM »
yes iraq is a big government caused mess
yes immigration is big government caused mess
yes education is a big government mess
yes SS will go broke if not fixed and thus a big government mess
and yes turning over our medical care to the same entity will be a mess

11112
3DHS / Re: More on Al Qaeda In Iraq
« on: July 27, 2007, 03:29:27 PM »
(the liberals seem to have conveninetly forgotten this part).

no they haven't because we have them on video, click below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE

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3DHS / socialized medicine
« on: July 27, 2007, 03:02:43 PM »



11114
3DHS / I always knew it
« on: July 27, 2007, 10:34:11 AM »

I always knew it


11115
3DHS / Re: One place the Surge is working
« on: July 26, 2007, 10:08:08 PM »
Iran accused of training Taliban to fight AmericaPublished: Saturday, 21 July, 2007, 02:25 AM Doha Time
 
HERAT, Afghanistan:

 Erstwhile enemies who once stood on the brink of war, Iran and the Taliban now appear linked by conflicts against the US, as officials and political analysts accuse Tehran of training and arming the Afghan insurgents.
Colonel Rahmatullah Safi, border police commander in the three western provinces of Farah, Badghis and Herat, claimed that his forces seized and intercepted weapons including anti-tank mines on the Afghan-Iranian border that were intended for the Taliban.
?Since Americans are in a difficult situation in Iraq, Iran wants to turn Afghanistan into a second Iraq for them and their international allies,? Safi said in his headquarters 15km outside Herat city.
?The Iranian officials try to keep foreign forces in the country busy in the fight with Taliban, so they don?t have the chance to put more pressure or attack Iran because of its nuclear programme,? he said.
Safi also said that he had intelligence information that militants including former mujahedin, who fought Soviet forces in Afghanistan and later plunged the country into a bloody civil war, ousted members of the Taliban and foreign fighters were trained in Iranian military bases.?I have information that 45 fighters led by Yahya Khortarak, who was a mujahideen commander in Herat province in the past, are now under training in the border town of Turbat Jam in Iran and they want to enter Herat from the Kamana area of the border to carry out some terrorist acts like planting mines, or even maybe suicide attacks,? Safi said.
The brigade that Safi commands comprises 1,652 agents, but he says the actual number of men patrolling the 1186km border is barely 900.
?We don?t even have one guard per kilometre, but the Iranians have thousands, so it?s impossible that they are unaware of these movements,? he admitted.Nato and US government officials in the past have also claimed that Iranian-made weapons were found in Afghanistan but this was the first direct accusation by an Afghan regional official that Iran was involved in assisting the resurgent Taliban.
Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Maria Carl also confirmed that Iranian-made weaponry was found in Afghanistan but said that the alliance was not sure if Tehran was supplying them.
?There have definitely been a number of weapons that we have found that have markings consistent with an Iranian origin, so that part is not disputed at all,? Carl said. ?But it is not still clear, we still don?t have evidence which shows that there is any formal Iranian political backing or that the government of Iran is behind it.?
Afghan and ISAF officials also recently claimed that they had seized five explosively formed penetrator bombs (EFP), which can pierce military armoured vehicles, and which have been found in the hands of Hezbollah in Lebanon.
?Some EFP components may be made in Iran, but it doesn?t necessarily mean the Iranian government is behind it,? Colonel Thomas Kelly, deputy chief of ISAF counter-Improvised Explosive Device, said on Wednesday.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai is cautious to not accuse the Iranian government. Tehran also denied that it would send arms for the Taliban group in Afghanistan.
?These allegations are so baseless as Iran?s role in the reconstruction of Afghanistan is unanimously confirmed by both friends and enemies (of Iran),? Irna, Iran?s state-run news agency, quoted Deputy Foreign Minister of Iran, Mehdi Safari, as saying.
?The accusations by the foreign forces are more an effort to cover their weakness in effectively confronting terrorism and establishing security in Afghanistan,? Safari added.
Taliban spokesman Zabeeullah Mujahed also denied that they were receiving arms or training from Iran.
?We don?t get any help from Iran or Pakistan, we receive assistance from different nations. We are buying weapons from international markets and bring them to Afghanistan through different means including smuggling them,? he said.
Despite the denials, border police commander Safi believes that Iranian government is playing both sides: arming the Taliban while making friendly overtures to Karzai government.
?I am not talking for any one, neither for Karzai nor for the Americans - whatever I see I say it. I have seen the Iranian-made mines and armed people entering Afghanistan and I know that the militants are trained there,? he stressed.
?Iran knows Afghanistan has become an important place for the US and Nato countries, so by putting pressure on Afghanistan they can make the Western countries relax pressure on Tehran,? said Dad Noorani, an Afghan writer and political analyst.
Thanks to its strategic location, Afghanistan has once again become a theatre for rival political interests to be played out.
Waheed Muzhda, an Afghan political analyst who wrote book on Afghan-Iran relations in the 1990s, said the ?Great Game? never ends for Afghans. ?Either it is between Great Britain and Russia or between US and Russia, and now between Iran-US.
?Afghanistan has always been victimised because of foreign rivalries,? Muzhda said. ?Iran wants to use Afghan soil and people to combat the US forces, as they do in Iraq.? - DPA

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=162128&version=1&template_id=41&parent_id=23

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