US Soldier Found Guilty in Afghan Thrill-Killings

[Michael Tee]

I didn't think it was either, but our disturbed friend sometimes has this knack of reading other posters' minds - - wrongly.

[Plane]

  The origional topic is so sad that I must admit to relief at diversion.

[BSB]

Blowhard >>I think if he gets a Presidential pardon, like Lt. Calley did..<<

If that isn't Nixon and Vietnam, asshole, what is it?

BSB

[Michael Tee]

<<Of course I do [believe that the police force is already an armed menace which requires an armed defence by the citizenry]>>

<<Do you have unrealistic expectations of the Police?>>

I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that only a tiny minority will ever use their weapons or even their fists in an unjustified attack on innocent civilians.

<<A very strong majority of police are decent, and a very strong majority of soldiers are too.
<<A very strong majority of the public is also decent .
<<Of these three which should be helpless against the other two?>>

I see where you're headed, but I don't think a victim of police abuse is "helpless" as long as there are good lawyers ready to take on bad cops.

But I'd really like to you set me straight on this:  where's the difference between Second Amendment guys like you and sheer anarchists?

[sirs]

But I'd really like to you set me straight on this:  where's the difference between Second Amendment guys like you and sheer anarchists?

I'll take a stab....Rule of Law.  The former supports it, the latter will ignore it

[R.R.]

If that isn't Nixon and Vietnam, asshole, what is it?

Yeah you fucking asshole, answer the question.

Just kidding.

Is this type of violent language really necessary?

[Michael Tee]

<<I'll take a stab....Rule of Law.  The former supports it, the latter will ignore it>>

Good answer, and I suspect, the standard conservative answer.  So I guess Rule of Law doesn't really cover shooting it out with the cops, except in the most extreme cases of corrupt officers shooting at you with intent to kill or maim.

[sirs]

Rule of law covers Rule of law.....to the point where self defense of one's life takes priority.  It's the standard rational answer

[Michael Tee]

I'm just wondering how many times it actually happened that a law-abiding citizen saved his own life by shooting back at rogue or out-of-control cops who were shooting at him.  Can't think of one single case.

[Plane]

I'm just wondering how many times it actually happened that a law-abiding citizen saved his own life by shooting back at rogue or out-of-control cops who were shooting at him.  Can't think of one single case.

   At Ruby Ridge it should have worked out that way.


   But is that the point?

     I am having a hard time thinking of a situation in which it is better to be unarmed.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I am having a hard time thinking of a situation in which it is better to be unarmed.

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That's easy: when going through the metal detector at the airport.

[Plane]

That is the requirement and I don't think I will cross them.

But I don't agree that it is a good idea.

[sirs]

I'm just wondering how many times it actually happened that a law-abiding citizen saved his own life by shooting back at rogue or out-of-control cops who were shooting at him.  Can't think of one single case.

Neither can I.......which then begs the question.......what's the point of the inquiry??

[BSB]

>>I am having a hard time thinking of a situation in which it is better to be unarmed<<

Think again. If you're armed you have a much better chance of showing the weapon. When you show a weapon all the dynamics of the situation change and often they change for the worse. I knew a bartender who when confronted by a gun toting thief, at the bar, pulled out his gun, and that prompted the thief to shoot and kill him.

I drove a cab at night in Boston. I decided not to carry because I felt knowing I had a gun might influence who I put in my cab and what areas of the city I cruised through generally.

Often times it's better to out wit. Not always, I 've carried with deadly intent as a civilian. But often times the brain is mightier than the sword. 


BSB

[sirs]

For every story you might bring about regarding a situation that went bad with a gun, I could respond 3fold with those situations, many in which the mere presence of the gun, kept the situation from becoming deadly