I saw this sticker on a rear window today.
In this sense, I contend, aside from political speech, this type of communication is prized under our First-Amendment system. Thus, on this level, the displayer enjoys the added protection of being a seeker through relevant, expressive behavior, and not a hate-monger.
There are some dimensions to this issue which are being overlooked. First, parodies, even directly disrespectful ones, are much more acceptable when aimed at majorities or those securely in power. In this sense, the analogy to gay jokes and such breaks down. This acceptability stems from the veritable duty to criticize those in power for a host of reasons, which can be summarized as keeping them honest. Second, another aspect overlooked is any detail whatsoever about the guy who displayed the decal. It seems to me, as likely as not, that the person MAY be a disaffected Christian in the process of working out his demons. In this sense, I contend, aside from political speech, this type of communication is prized under our First-Amendment system. Thus, on this level, the displayer enjoys the added protection of being a seeker through relevant, expressive behavior, and not a hate-monger.
Of course.
Just like painting swastikas on temple walls is obviously an attempt by the Jews to claim victimhood.
And those Negroes with the burning crosses, what's with that?
Of course.
Just like painting swastikas on temple walls is obviously an attempt by the Jews to claim victimhood.
And those Negroes with the burning crosses, what's with that?
Those folks really were minority victims . Xtian is the power majority who only want to claim victimhood for themselves as well .
Of course.
Just like painting swastikas on temple walls is obviously an attempt by the Jews to claim victimhood.
And those Negroes with the burning crosses, what's with that?
Those folks really were minority victims . Xtian is the power majority who only want to claim victimhood for themselves as well .
They are victims when they are attacked , elese what would "victim " ever mean?
They are feigning the attack in order to gain sympathy and steal the last thing denied themie victimhood. The Xtians in here have already proven they have no shame
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I did see one confused Ford driver with the Calvin peeing on the Ford logo.
Last I checked, PURE SPEECH expressing revulsion, disgust, hatred and the like was both tolerated by our own First Amendment and more broadly by democratic theory in general.
My superior intellect understands the problem perfectly well, which your last post tacitly admits.
Well, I looked into the mindset of the perpetrator and I sure as hell did not see any hate. I don't think you 'd find one guy in twelve who would think that was a hate-motivated cartoon, let alone a crime.
The problem with the right wing is that they have absolutely no sense of proportion.
You can't compare the forced wearing of racial ID (the direct result of the infamous Nuremburg Racial Laws of Nazi Germany) with this cartoon.
That type of spiel might get the chickens dancin' in Georgia, but up here it's a ho-hum flop.
It always starts with desensitizing. demonize the rich, blame the Jews, piss on Christians. As long as it is some other group what the hell, right? Next thing you know you have Nuremberg laws. No where am i saying that this sticker is the same as Nazi Germany.What i am saying is it all starts with intolerance. And acceptance of same.
Well, you seemed to equate the cartoon with the statutorily mandated wearing of racial identification armbands or badges. Sure sounded to me like you thought you were making a valid comparison.
So I guess you agree with me that making Jews wear legally-mandated yellow "Jew" armbands and badges is one hell of a lot worse than displaying bumper stickers showing a grinning little kid pissing on the base of a cross.
The armband came out of a lengthy propaganda campaign that vilified Jews in cartoons and posters as stooped, hook-nosed, vulturous and smelly fiends who tortured Christian children, raped innocent golden-haired Aryan maidens, robbed virtuous hard-working German citizens of the fruits of their labours and poisoned the water supply.
QuoteThe armband came out of a lengthy propaganda campaign that vilified Jews in cartoons and posters as stooped, hook-nosed, vulturous and smelly fiends who tortured Christian children, raped innocent golden-haired Aryan maidens, robbed virtuous hard-working German citizens of the fruits of their labours and poisoned the water supply.
So it did start with cartoon characters. I rest my case.
What i did say is that the intolerance displayed in your cartoons, which you freely admit happened, can lead to much dire manifestations of intolerance.
Js
We can waste time doing comparative analysis of what peoples are the greatest victims in the world or we can recognize intolerance when we see it.
Frankly i wasn't offended.
And i have seen far more vitriolic attacks against faith and those who have faith in these very pages.
I simply saw it as a sign of the times.
And apparently to many, that sign means nothing.
I do think that the sticker is a sign of the times. And that is unfortunate.
The logical extension of BT's conception of this problem would be, apparently, to silence raw, bruising critics -- to siphon out vitriol from public discourse. On the other hand, Michael's, JS's and my approaches would leave response to the political process, with the ever-present memory (NOT appropriate here for the kid pissing on the cross) that extrapolations of the offensive behavior may lead to catastrophic extremes.
Get back to me when you know what you're talking about.
Peer Pressure is a form of political activity but it does not carry the weight of law. At worst case the offender will be shunned, not incarcerated, fined or otherwise punished by the state. There is peer pressure to not steal from your neighbor, there is also a code of law that frowns on such activity. In the case of the sticker i see no need for a law. I would simply recognize the speaker for what they are.