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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on August 22, 2008, 07:47:19 PM

Title: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Kramer on August 22, 2008, 07:47:19 PM
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Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on August 22, 2008, 09:23:28 PM
Bi is a good guy and not an anti-american liberal, but he would be a horrible choice for NoBama.

"PlagiarismJoe" Biden might be worse!
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: sirs on August 23, 2008, 12:12:17 AM
The Intel (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26336195/) was a tad pre-mature, it appears
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: sirs on August 23, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
Strong hint (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/us-secret-servi.html), perhaps?
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: sirs on August 23, 2008, 02:29:54 AM
Apparently it's Obama/Biden (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92NPRAO0&show_article=1)
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: sirs on August 23, 2008, 02:36:33 AM
2 Senators, neither with really ANY executive experience?  Yea, that's a biggie to start with
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Michael Tee on August 23, 2008, 09:48:00 AM
<<2 Senators, neither with really ANY executive experience?  Yea, that's a biggie to start with>>

Depends on how they start. 

I'd start with a little recap of where all the guys WITH "executive experience" have gotten the country. I'd start by reminding the voters of exactly which "experienced" people were conned into supporting a war of unprovoked aggression and which "inexperienced" people were not.  I'd run up a little accounting bill here of just what the COST to the nation was of all that "experienced" judgment and where the budget (and America's reputation) would be if only they had listened to the voice of the "inexperienced."

This "experienced" business is turning out to be the biggest fucking scam in American political history.  The reason for Obama's meteoric rise in the first place was BECAUSE plenty of people were fed up to the gills with "experience" and  knew it was a crock and a smokescreen for everything they didn't want any more of.  Someone who has the "experience" of leading you five hundred miles up a dead-end road may be experienced indeed, but it's the wrong kind of experienced. 

Experienced in lying, experienced in starting wars, experienced in committing atrocities, experienced in denying the necessities of life to millions of needy Americans - - fuck them and fuck their "experience."
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Brassmask on August 23, 2008, 01:21:41 PM
2 Senators, neither with really ANY executive experience?  Yea, that's a biggie to start with

Remind me again for McCain's "executive" experience...?

Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: sirs on August 23, 2008, 01:23:32 PM
He doesn't, outside of being a squadron commander.....which prompts the significant suggestion to the McCain folks in picking a Veep that does
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Plane on August 24, 2008, 12:30:27 AM
He doesn't, outside of being a squadron commander.....which prompts the significant suggestion to the McCain folks in picking a Veep that does


A Squadron Commander is definately an executive , the scale is the diffrence , but not the nature of the post.

A Govenor or a Mayor does the same sort of job , but with a larger staff to make the scale managable.
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Brassmask on August 25, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
He doesn't, outside of being a squadron commander.....which prompts the significant suggestion to the McCain folks in picking a Veep that does


A Squadron Commander is definately an executive , the scale is the diffrence , but not the nature of the post.

A Govenor or a Mayor does the same sort of job , but with a larger staff to make the scale managable.

So does a community organizer.

Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Plane on August 25, 2008, 05:45:19 PM
He doesn't, outside of being a squadron commander.....which prompts the significant suggestion to the McCain folks in picking a Veep that does


A Squadron Commander is definately an executive , the scale is the diffrence , but not the nature of the post.

A Govenor or a Mayor does the same sort of job , but with a larger staff to make the scale managable.

So does a community organizer.




I gotta observe that BHO has been very strong in his ability to organise a campaign.

This is a good indicator of leadership ability , unfortunately he wants to lead us into a very hard left turn , which I don't think we need.
Title: Re: Obama/Bayh
Post by: Brassmask on August 27, 2008, 01:08:39 PM
I agree, Plane.

BHO has been a consummate campaigner and very organized and on point meeting charges from the opposition.


For all the commentary and running down of the convention, I think they are hitting all the right notes.  The theme is Hope and Change, not Rage and Red Meat.