McCain not sure how many houses he and wife own

[Michael Tee]

You'll have to explain to me - - what does Kerry knowing or not knowing if he owns SUVs have to do with McCain not knowing how many homes he or his wife own?

<<Please.

<<Kerry didn't even know he owned SUV's. Actually claimed he didn't. Apparently he forgot about the ones in Colorado. >>

[BT]

You'll have to explain to me - - what does Kerry knowing or not knowing if he owns SUVs have to do with McCain not knowing how many homes he or his wife own?

Both incidents were jumped on by the press and partisans as examples of deficiencies in the opposing candidates.

And in both cases, in the end, it meant nothing and the losers in credibility were those who tried to make the incident more than it was. the press and the partisans.

Houses,  cars .... it don't mean nothing.

The big question is this. Do you trust either candidate to make acceptable decisions on your behalf. That is what representative democracy is all about. Having an itemized list of your spouses assets is not an indicator of that capability.

[Michael Tee]

<<The big question is this. Do you trust either candidate to make acceptable decisions on your behalf. That is what representative democracy is all about. Having an itemized list of your spouses assets is not an indicator of that capability.>>

Sorry, I don't buy it.  There's no need for an "itemized list" but everyone I know knows how many houses he owns and how many houses his wife owns.  Not knowing indicates extreme stupidity, Alzheimers, or, most likely,  just plain lying.  Not exactly what supporters would expect of the "Straight Talk Express."

[BT]

Sorry, I don't buy it.  There's no need for an "itemized list" but everyone I know knows how many houses he owns and how many houses his wife owns.  Not knowing indicates extreme stupidity, Alzheimers, or, most likely,  just plain lying.  Not exactly what supporters would expect of the "Straight Talk Express."

Either that or his wifes business is his wifes business, just as his senate office is his senate office and not his wifes. I woud be more concerned if either couldf recite chapter and verse on their wives assets. Shows a preoccupation with Other Peoples Money.

I notice that both you and Knute both are bordering on ageism when you keep implying that a man of 72 is automatically an Alzheimer candidate. That is not the case as Alzheimer's has more to do with genetics than it does chronological age. His mother doesn't have it. Why should he automatically have it.

Just another example of liberal tolerance i guess.

[Michael Tee]

<<Either that or his wifes business is his wifes business, just as his senate office is his senate office and not his wifes. >>

Another perfect example of living in some fantasy world where only other Republicans dwell.  In the real world, a man knows his wife's business.  Period.  Especially when that "business" concerns the home or homes for which the man has paid over a quarter of a million for domestic help.  It is ludicrous to claim, against everyone's own knowledge and life experience, that this guy doesn't know how many homes his wife owns.  What is the point in reciting some absurd rubric such as "her business is her business" when, firstly, it's NOT, if he's paying a quarter mil for the domestic help, and secondly, life as most people experience it just doesn't work that way?  Very few people would believe for a millisecond that he really doesn't know how many homes his wife owns.

<<I woud be more concerned if either couldf recite chapter and verse on their wives assets. Shows a preoccupation with Other Peoples Money.>>

Other people?  It's his fucking WIFE, for chrissake.  His wife is NOT "Other People."  Just another example of your total divorce from the real world.

<<I notice that both you and Knute both are bordering on ageism when you keep implying that a man of 72 is automatically an Alzheimer candidate. >>

That's OK.  It's only to counter-balance your anti-intellectualism when you keep implying that a man who taught Constitutional Law for 12 years at a top-flight law school and could edit the Harvard Law Review lacks the "experience" to deal with the "real world."

<<That is not the case as Alzheimer's has more to do with genetics than it does chronological age. His mother doesn't have it. Why should he automatically have it.>>

Alzheimer's is a metaphor for being an old fart with antiquated ideas who is resistant to change and has never had a new idea in the last thirty years.

<<Just another example of liberal tolerance i guess. >>

If it's an example of anything, it's of calling a spade a spade.

[Amianthus]

If it's an example of anything, it's of calling a spade a spade.

And we move on to racism.

[BT]

Alzheimer's is a metaphor for being an old fart with antiquated ideas who is resistant to change and has never had a new idea in the last thirty years.

And you know this how. Was McCain Feingold an old idea or was it the right packaging at the right time?

See this is the problem.

Obama is running as the anti-politician. He insists he intends to keep to the high road. He is the presumptive nominee for that reason and hat reason alone.

But apparently that claim was a lie.

You have no intention of keeping the high road. Knute doesn't know where the high road is, and Obama picks Biden simply so he can have a surrogate attack dog with insider credibility.

Here's to the old boss, same as the new boss.

[Michael Tee]

<<You have no intention of keeping the high road. Knute doesn't know where the high road is, and Obama picks Biden simply so he can have a surrogate attack dog with insider credibility.>>

There IS no high road in this game.  Obama was starting to lose ground to McCain's dirty tricks, now it looks like the tide is going to turn.  This issue isn't who's a dirtier fighter (Swift-Boating makes that irrelevant) but who's the more vulnerable to the mud being thrown.

<<Here's to the old boss, same as the new boss.>>

I'm hoping Obama's not really a scumbag, but just doing what he needs to be done to get elected.  McCain I KNOW is a scumbag.  That's the difference.

[BT]

There IS no high road in this game.

Why not?

Obama was starting to lose ground to McCain's dirty tricks, now it looks like the tide is going to turn.

What dirty tricks. McCain didn't schedule Obama's premature coronation tour. Obama did. McCain didn't have Obama set his pay grade. Obama did.

[Michael Tee]

<<Why not?>>

Why not?  Just look around this newsgroup.  There's already a video posted of some guy claiming he sucked off Obama in a limo, someone dug up a half-brother of Obama living in a shack in Kenya and sirs and Kramer want to take up a collection for him all this following on the Swift-Boating of the last election and you wanna know why not?  Because of the Republicans, that's why not.

[BT]

Oh.

Obama is being borked? or is it Thomas'd.

[sirs]

sirs and Kramer want to take up a collection for him all this following on the Swift-Boating of the last election and you wanna know why not?  

Care to provide that quote??....the one where I'm taking up some collection??...................lemme help you out, that'd be another of your lies

[Michael Tee]

<<Obama is being borked? or is it Thomas'd.>>

I wouldn't call it bork'd or Thomas'd.  Unless I missed something somewhere?  Any guy make a video claiming they'd sucked off Bork or Thomas in a limo?  Or snorted coke with them?  All I can remember about Bork was he got trashed for being an ideologue who probably wouldn't keep his ideology out of his judicial decisions and Thomas was obviously trashed for (a) talking dirty to Anita Hill, who actually didn't want to go forward with the accusations but nevertheless presented a pretty decent case when subpoena'd for the anti-Thomas faction, (b) being an enthusiast of Long Dong Silver porno movies at a time when pornography legislation was coming under attack in the courts and (c) being pretty much of an unqualified moron, which he has amply confirmed since his "elevation" by being rightly afraid to open his mouth in court.

Not only is Obama the object of one of the dirtiest campaigns in U.S. history, but my prediction is that it's going to get one hell of a lot worse.  McCain of course will continue to act like sugar wouldn't melt in his mouth, while his anonymous supporters just fire up the shit-throwing machines and slime away.  It's a one-two punch that just might land the old fart in the Oval Office, unless Biden can do something about it.

 

[BT]

Not only is Obama the object of one of the dirtiest campaigns in U.S. history

Nonsense.

McCain pokes fun at Obama's celerity and his supprters get all wobbly trying to paint the ad as racist.

You might have a problem with a white man being associated with two blonde white women, but most republicans i know got the ad for what it was.

BTW you notice where Obama is distancing himself from all the celebs jetting in for the dem festivities?

Wonder why.

[Michael Tee]

<<McCain pokes fun at Obama's celerity and his supprters get all wobbly trying to paint the ad as racist.

<<You might have a problem with a white man being associated with two blonde white women, but most republicans i know got the ad for what it was.>>

Yeah, I know what they said.  They're the biggest fucking hypocrites on earth, so it's no surprise, but most people can understand why Obama was linked to two slutty blondes in the video and they don't need any Republican lies to help them figure it out either.

<<BTW you notice where Obama is distancing himself from all the celebs jetting in for the dem festivities?>>

No, I didn't.  No fucking on the picnic tables, eh?  How's he manage to restrain his raging animal lusts?  Is he under sedation?

<<Wonder why. >>

I wonder why he'd feel compelled to.  He made a big mistake not tackling the racist video head-on.  He and Michelle shoulda blasted McCain side-by-side, called the racist pig on it and had all their surrogates, white AND black, denounce it.  But he opted for the "don't make waves" approach.  HUGE mistake.  IMHO.