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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: _JS on January 08, 2008, 05:44:47 PM

Title: Thought of the Day
Post by: _JS on January 08, 2008, 05:44:47 PM
The first man who, having enclosed a piece of land, thought to himself of saying This is mine, and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this imposter; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself belongs to nobody.

Jean-Jacques Rousseau from Dissertation On the Origin and Foundation of the Inequality of Mankind
Title: Re: Thought of the Day
Post by: Plane on January 10, 2008, 12:02:06 AM
I expect that Man was territorial before he was Man.

Lots of Primates are territorial , you ca't be a strange babboon and wander through the troops feedng grounds unintroduced , you ight be adopted by the troop or you might be run off , but you can't ignore the boundrys.

Early man very likely lived a life something like the Babboon does today , with social machinery preceeding the discovery of fire and flint.
Title: Re: Thought of the Day
Post by: Universe Prince on January 10, 2008, 12:21:37 AM
Frederic Bastiat from The Law:

      Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter--by peaceful or revolutionary means--into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.

Woe to the nation when this latter purpose prevails among the mass victims of lawful plunder when they, in turn, seize the power to make laws! Until that happens, the few practice lawful plunder upon the many, a common practice where the right to participate in the making of law is limited to a few persons. But then, participation in the making of law becomes universal. And then, men seek to balance their conflicting interests by universal plunder. Instead of rooting out the injustices found in society, they make these injustices general. As soon as the plundered classes gain political power, they establish a system of reprisals against other classes. They do not abolish legal plunder. (This objective would demand more enlightenment than they possess.) Instead, they emulate their evil predecessors by participating in this legal plunder, even though it is against their own interests.

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While society is struggling toward liberty, these famous men who put themselves at its head are filled with the spirit of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. They think only of subjecting mankind to the philanthropic tyranny of their own social inventions. Like Rousseau, they desire to force mankind docilely to bear this yoke of the public welfare that they have dreamed up in their own imaginations.