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LQQKs like Big O Shut Nearly All of their Mouths
« on: November 08, 2008, 07:47:41 PM »



November 9, 2008
WASHINGTON MEMO
Stinging Talk About Obama? Never Mind Now

By JIM RUTENBERG
That whole anti-American, friend-to-the-terrorists thing about President-elect Barack Obama? Never mind.

Just a few weeks ago, at the height of the campaign, Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota told Chris Matthews of MSNBC that, when it came to Mr. Obama, “I’m very concerned that he may have anti-American views.”

But there she was on Wednesday, after narrowly escaping defeat because of those comments, saying she was “extremely grateful that we have an African-American who has won this year.” Ms. Bachmann, a Republican, called Mr. Obama’s victory, which included her state, “a tremendous signal we sent.”

And it was not too long ago that Senator John McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, accused Mr. Obama of “palling around with terrorists.”

But she took an entirely different tone on Thursday, when she chastised reporters for asking her questions about her war with some staff members in the McCain campaign at such a heady time. “Barack Obama has been elected president,” Ms. Palin said. “Let us, let us — let him — be able to kind of savor this moment, one, and not let the pettiness of maybe internal workings of the campaign erode any of the recognition of this historic moment that we’re in. And God bless Barack Obama and his beautiful family.”

There is a great tradition of paint-peeling political hyperbole during presidential campaign years. And there is an equally great tradition of backing off from it all afterward, though with varying degrees of deftness.

But given the intensity of some of the charges that have been made in the past few months, and the historic nature of Mr. Obama’s election, the exercise this year has been particularly whiplash-inducing, with its extreme before-and-after contrasts.

The shift in tone follows the magnanimous concession speech from Mr. McCain, of Arizona, who referred to Mr. Obama’s victory Tuesday night as “a historic election” and hailed the “special pride” it held for African-Americans. That led the vice president-elect, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., to get into the act. During the campaign, Mr. Biden said he no longer recognized Mr. McCain, an old friend. Now, he says, “We’re still friends.” President Bush, in turn, also hailed Mr. Obama’s victory, saying his arrival at the White House would be “a stirring sight.”

Whether it all heralds a new era of cooperation in Washington remains to be seen, and it may be downright doubtful. But for now, at least, it would seem to be part of an apparent rush to join what has emerged as a real moment in American history.

The presidential historian Doris Kearns Goodwin said she was hard-pressed to find a similar moment when the tone had changed so drastically, and so quickly, among so many people of such prominence.

“I don’t think that’s happened very often,” Ms. Goodwin said. “The best answer I can give you is they don’t want to be on the wrong side of history, and they recognize how the country saw this election, and how people feel that they’re living in a time of great historic moment.”

Others in the professional political class were not so sure. Some wondered whether simple pragmatism was the explanation.

“My experience is, it’s less an epiphany and more a political reality,” said Chris Lehane, a former Democratic strategist who worked on the presidential campaign of Al Gore. “I’m thinking they will continue in this direction so long as the polls indicate it’s a smart place to be.”

There are notable exceptions: Rush Limbaugh has given no quarter. And while his fellow conservative radio hosts Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham have noted the significance of his victory — on Wednesday, Ms. Ingraham said “Obama did make history” and “It’s not the time to vilify him” — they seem to be in line with Bill O’Reilly of Fox News. Relishing his new role in the opposition camp, Mr. O’Reilly said, “The guy is still a mystery, so our oversight will be intense.”

Some lawmakers also do not appear inclined to give up the fight. Representative John A. Boehner, the House minority leader, has already criticized Mr. Obama’s choice of Representative Rahm Emanuel, Democrat of Illinois, as his chief of staff.

But other people who opposed Mr. Obama, like Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, have good reason to try to make up with the winning ticket. As an ardent backer of Mr. McCain, Mr. Lieberman angered the Democrats, who in 2000 nominated him as their vice-presidential candidate. After losing a Democratic primary challenge in 2006 and then winning as an independent, he still continued to caucus with the Democrats.

Attending an event with Mr. McCain in York, Pa., in August, Mr. Lieberman said the race was “between one candidate, John McCain, who has always put the country first, worked across party lines to get things done, and one candidate who has not.”

As a speaker at the Republican National Convention, Mr. Lieberman went further than Democrats expected by criticizing Mr. Obama for “voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground.” (Mr. Obama voted for bills that included plans for withdrawal from Iraq and against others that did not.)

This week Mr. Lieberman, who has been asked by the Democratic Senate leadership to consider giving up his position as the chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, released a statement congratulating Mr. Obama for “his historic and impressive victory.” It continued, “The American people are a people of extraordinary fairness.”

Marshall Wittmann, a spokesman for Mr. Lieberman, said that as far as the senator was concerned, “It’s over, and it’s genuinely time to find unity and move forward behind the new president.”

And what about that whole bit about Mr. Obama not always putting his country first? “He believes that President-elect Obama — and, then, Senator Obama — is a genuine patriot and loves his country,” Mr. Wittmann said. “The only point he was making in his campaign was about partisanship.”

Mr. Obama is apparently ready to bury the hatchet with his new fans. “President-elect Obama has made it clear that he wants to put partisanship behind and work together to solve the many challenges confronting the country,” said Stephanie Cutter, a spokeswoman for the Obama transition team. “We’re pleased that others do as well.”

The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid of Nevada, who will help decide Mr. Lieberman’s committee assignment, sounded less ready to forgive, at least when it came Mr. Lieberman’s support for Mr. McCain. “Joe Lieberman has done something that I think was improper, wrong, and I’d like — if we weren’t on television, I’d use a stronger word of describing what he did,” he said on CNN Friday.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/09/us/politics/09memo.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 01:20:04 AM »
Lieberman is a class A number one ungrateful twisted ratbastard.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 02:20:09 AM »
Lieberman is a class A number one ungrateful twisted ratbastard.


Liberman is liked just fine by his constituants , should he have greater loyalty to the party than to them , or to his own integrety?

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 10:48:28 AM »
Lieberman is a class A number one ungrateful twisted ratbastard.


Liberman is liked just fine by his constituants , should he have greater loyalty to the party than to them , or to his own integrety?

Joe the traitor is liked by less than half of his constituents and has no integrity at all . There is little doubt that he would have lost this year had he run and I doubt he will even be a factor in 2012.

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 10:54:50 AM »
Joe Lieberman's only loyalty, if any, is to Israel. He is a ratbastard, through and through. If he had any integrity, he would have not accepted to run as Gore's VP. Then he got called "Loserman" by the vile Rovian GOP. Now he supports them. He has no principles, he has no integrity. He was rejected in the Democratic Primary in Connecticut.



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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2008, 07:08:43 PM »
Although Liberman was rejected by his party establishment , he was accepted by his constituants .

Which should have primacy? People or Party?

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2008, 07:21:32 PM »
Lieberman does not deserve the perks, such as committee assignments, that he received as a member of the majority or minority party, because he is no longer a serious member of the Democratic Party.

He should be allowed to serve as long as he has the votes to win. By the way, he didn't get a majority of the votes. He just got more than the Democrat and the Republican running against him.

He doesn't deserve any perks for being a Democrat, because he went out of his way to always be standing next to McCain. I still consider him to be a twisted ratbastard, and if I lived in CT, I would not vote for him.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2008, 08:34:40 PM »
Lieberman does not deserve the perks, such as committee assignments, that he received as a member of the majority or minority party, because he is no longer a serious member of the Democratic Party.

He should be allowed to serve as long as he has the votes to win. By the way, he didn't get a majority of the votes. He just got more than the Democrat and the Republican running against him.

He doesn't deserve any perks for being a Democrat, because he went out of his way to always be standing next to McCain. I still consider him to be a twisted ratbastard, and if I lived in CT, I would not vote for him.

Then it can be assumed that he would have beaten either one of them alone.

Bill Clinton never got up to half the vote either , didn't ruin his mandate entirely.