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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2008, 05:56:15 PM »
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You having a hard time walking & chewing gum like a real Repud today?

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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2008, 10:27:27 PM »
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Wouldnt you be afeared of some lady looney that shoots & guts moose?

Nah. I like independent women.

Hokay, but dont say I didnt warnya. She has the family crazy eyes.





Your postings are on the level of crayon graffiti... to coin an XO phrase.

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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2008, 10:50:05 PM »
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Your postings are on the level of crayon graffiti... to coin an XO phrase.
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Thank you very much! It is better than the raw bullshit you throw up.

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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2008, 10:55:45 PM »
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Thank you very much! It is better than the raw bullshit you throw up.

You are too kind in your praise.


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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2008, 11:07:45 PM »
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Thank you very much! It is better than the raw bullshit you throw up.

You are too kind in your praise.



I know ,but I am feeling magnanimous in victory.



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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2008, 12:54:53 AM »
My understanding is that Michelle Obama will be bring fashion back to the Whitehouse in such a manner as not seen since Jackie O.

Who is buying these clothes for her? Were they gifts, paid for from campaign funds, product placements?

Is the message of costly threads conflicting with the message of hope , care and shared sacrifice during hard times.

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Michelle Obama is independently wealthy, and the cost of her clothes have not been made public. She is well-dressed, but not anything like Jackie Kennedy, or Nancy Reagan, for that matter. I observe that no one questioned where the Kennedys got so much loot to pay Oleg Cassini with. It is highly probable that any US first lady could easily get free clothes from any designer, since there is no better form of publicity.

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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2008, 12:58:35 AM »
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It is highly probable that any US first lady could easily get free clothes from any designer, since there is no better form of publicity.

Would that be an ethical violation?

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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2008, 01:07:10 AM »
It is highly probable that any US first lady could easily get free clothes from any designer, since there is no better form of publicity.

Would that be an ethical violation?

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Because it gave more free publicity to a name designer than to K-Mart or Sears or some mall chainstore?

What would the conflict of interest be?

I don't see where it would be a big one. It doesn't bother the French
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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2008, 02:44:59 AM »
It is highly probable that any US first lady could easily get free clothes from any designer, since there is no better form of publicity.

Would that be an ethical violation?

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Because it gave more free publicity to a name designer than to K-Mart or Sears or some mall chainstore?

What would the conflict of interest be?

I don't see where it would be a big one. It doesn't bother the French


It could be a problem because political writers are eager to find picaune problems to pick on.

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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2008, 11:02:29 AM »
It's like Jon Cleese said: Palin is like a trained parrot. She can only sound like she knows anything when seriously prepped. She seems to be an even duller female version of C. Danforth Quayle. I'm all for her getting the 2012 nomination. The Republicans owe th country at least eight years of being ignored for the hideous damage they have done to the country by nominating Juniorbush and the vile Cheney twice.
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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2008, 06:14:32 PM »
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2008

Wardrobe Malfunction
One of the hot button issues of the day is Sarah Palin's $150,000 wardrobe, and whether she has to pay income taxes on it. To my ears, the real question is whether it is a just state of affairs where female politicians have to spend so much more on their personal appearance than their male counterparts. One tactful columnist had the following to say:
Today’s big So What: It cost $150,000 to dress Republican Sarah Palin. It is all about image in politics.

A killer presidential candidate needs killer clothes. Democrat Hillary Clinton wore cheesy polyester pantsuits. If she shelled out a few bucks on something you couldn’t get at Kmart, she might be president...

Women are supposed to look good and smell nice. The reason that Democrat John Edwards was mocked for his $400 haircuts was it was a girlish vanity. The “I Feel Pretty” video aims at his masculinity. The song is sung by a girl.

A double standard? You betcha.

To my mind, the burden being put on Gov. Palin is just an extreme version of the Jespersen dilemma. Jespersen was a female bartender working for Harrah's who was forced, under new grooming regulations, to wear makeup to her job. This imposed an additional hurdle to her entering the workforce: though men also had grooming requirements, they were generally less expensive to maintain than those given to women. In such a case, women are being penalized upon entering the workforce solely for being women: that second X chromosome means that they can be required to shell out more as a threshold requirement before they are allowed to compete for the same job men are going after. Likewise, Gov. Palin, because she's a woman, has to spend a lot more time and resources on her attire and appearance before she can compete as an equal in the political arena.

From a feminist perspective (which wants Gov. Palin to lose, but not because she is hobbled from competing as a woman), there are two angles of attack on this. On the one hand, you could indict the norms of appearance that require so much more out of women than men. Alternatively, one could (perhaps provisionally) accept those norms, and demand offsets so that the costs of their enforcement do not fall on women but on some other party. For example, if Harrah's Casino wants to demand women alter their appearance above and beyond their requirements for men, it could be forced to pay for the difference in value (I imagine if that requirement did exist, the gender-differential would be eliminated quite rapidly).

How it works in cases like this, where nobody is "forcing" Gov. Palin to spend so much on her clothes, but there is a generalized knowledge that if she didn't pay that extra attention, she'd be political toast, is more complicated. But the income tax question gives a hint. Regardless of whether Gov. Palin is correct in asserting that she does not have to pay taxes on her "borrowed" wardrobe is right as a matter of current law, one could argue that creating such an exception, by mitigating the cost of additional clothing (at least on the candidate) would help alleviate some of the burdens our gendered appearance norms currently place on female politicians. It wouldn't eliminate it entirely, as it still would cost more for Parties to run these candidates, but it would at least make a dent. A purist might also feel feminists advocating for such a rule would be capitulating to the legitimacy of the underlying gendered-appearance sentiment, which is what really has to be taken apart for gender equality to be obtained (that was the first approach I outlined). But advocates for this plan might respond that we can't wait for a revolution that might never arrive, and in the meantime provisionally accepting the realities of ingrained sexism, and working to mitigate their impact, is the best that can be hoped for (a Derrick Bell style argument).

All of which goes to show how deeply entrenched patriarchal norms continue to have an impact today, even against the most elite and accomplished female figures."

Women in a double face slap when it comes to their place (in politics).


Don't spend money to up your visual appearance for the dumb ass voters that are not going to vote for you because you spent too much money and are not gonna vote for Hilary because she looks like a frumpy housewife in her Polyester Pant Suits and should cough up some $$ so she would look good and maybe have won the Presidency.

One has to wonder how much the guys spent on their outfits...also, one has to wonder what the hell she is going to do with all those purty clothes up in Alaska.






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Re: Palin spent more on clothes than was announced
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2008, 06:31:25 PM »