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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on November 19, 2008, 05:15:56 PM

Title: Obama Landslide
Post by: Brassmask on November 19, 2008, 05:15:56 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/ (http://www.dailykos.com/)

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President-elect Obama Now Over 67 Million Votes... Hotlist
by Jed L
Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 12:54:28 PM CST

...and John McCain under 46%. Here's where the numbers stand right now:

    Obama: 67,065,042 (52.7%, 365 EVs)

    McCain: 58,420,587 (45.9%, 162 EVs)

Brassmask says:
That's a difference of 8,644,455 votes.  6.8% difference.  Mandate anyone?
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 19, 2008, 05:23:43 PM
That's a difference of 8,644,455 votes.  6.8% difference.  Mandate anyone?

Do you think we should talk about "man dates" when there is all this concern about gay marriage. First, they date, then they gonna wanna get married.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: richpo64 on November 19, 2008, 05:27:39 PM
Sorry, doesn't qualify.

Reagan, now there was a landslide.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 06:05:43 PM
Sorry, doesn't qualify.

Reagan, now there was a landslide.

Actually, it is you , as usual , that is wrong . Even though Reagan's first win over Carter was called a landslide, he only got slightly over 50% . In the second against Mondale he did get 58% , but I am sure Big O will do much better than that in 2012 against whatever moron y'all do run assuming there even is a Repub party by then.

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/journal/2008/11/obamas-landslide-deeper-than-reagans-but-not-as-broad.html (http://jimbuie.blogs.com/journal/2008/11/obamas-landslide-deeper-than-reagans-but-not-as-broad.html)
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: richpo64 on November 19, 2008, 06:09:56 PM
So 58 percent isn't a landslide?

You're fucking retarded.

Ronaldus Magnus won 49 States you mental midgit. That's a landslide.

(http://www.presidentelect.org/images/e1984_ecmap.GIF)
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 06:19:25 PM
So 58 percent isn't a landslide?

You're fucking retarded.

Ronaldus Magnus won 49 States you mental midgit. That's a landslide.

(http://www.presidentelect.org/images/e1984_ecmap.GIF)

As I said, that was the second election. In Big O's second, he will win all the states if there is a Repub party, my horny little slugbrain.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: richpo64 on November 19, 2008, 06:31:56 PM
Like I said, you're a fucking retard.

Would you like to bet on whether or not his Oneness will even run for a second term? There's a dead pool out there if you'd like to participate.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 07:38:51 PM
Like I said, you're a fucking retard.

Would you like to bet on whether or not his Oneness will even run for a second term? There's a dead pool out there if you'd like to participate.

What is a dead pool?
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 19, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
Actually, it is you , as usual , that is wrong . Even though Reagan's first win over Carter was called a landslide, he only got slightly over 50% .

You rarely get anything right.

Reagan got more than 9% of the popular vote over Carter (43,903,230 to 35,480,115) and got like 80% of the EC vote over Carter (489/90.9% to 49/9.1%).
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 19, 2008, 08:25:28 PM
What is a dead pool?

The Celebrity Dead Pool (http://www.stiffs.com/)
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 19, 2008, 10:15:22 PM
Reagan may have been popular, but I sure never voted for his sorry wrinkled ass. He was a disaster at everything but delivering speeches written for him by others onto 3 X 5  cards, and smiling for the cameras.

He was good at that. The presidency was his best acting role.



Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 10:16:32 PM
Actually, it is you , as usual , that is wrong . Even though Reagan's first win over Carter was called a landslide, he only got slightly over 50% .

You rarely get anything right.

Reagan got more than 9% of the popular vote over Carter (43,903,230 to 35,480,115) and got like 80% of the EC vote over Carter (489/90.9% to 49/9.1%).

And you never do because you never listen , but always shot off your arrogant mouth. All I said was that Reagan got barely over 50 % . There was a 3rd Party Candate that nearly got 7%

n 1980, Ronald Reagan carried 44 states with 489 electoral votes, compared to 49 for President Jimmy Carter, who won six states and the District of Columbia. But he only received 50.7% of the popular vote, while Carter took 41%, and Independent John B. Anderson (a liberal Republican) received 6.7%

And I posted my source something you rarely do.

More source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#1980_presidential_campaign
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 10:23:43 PM
What is a dead pool?

The Celebrity Dead Pool (http://www.stiffs.com/)

In other words , he is encouraging betting on when BigO is assassinated by one of you RW idiots. Why am I not surprised.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 19, 2008, 10:54:28 PM
And I posted my source something you rarely do.

Didn't need to; I was quoting your source.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 19, 2008, 11:00:56 PM
And I posted my source something you rarely do.

Didn't need to; I was quoting your source.

Then why didnt you notice that I was telling the truth?
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 19, 2008, 11:34:19 PM
Then why didnt you notice that I was telling the truth?

I was pointing out your lie by omission.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 20, 2008, 12:26:15 PM
Knuty did not say that you, Ami, failed to post your source for the 1980 election.He said that he did, and that you OFTEN do not, which implies on other occasions, not necessarily this one. I have not kept a count of the percentage each person posts sources, but that is not the issue.

This is not an example of a lie, by omission or otherwise.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 20, 2008, 12:27:57 PM
Knuty did not say that you, Ami, failed to post your source for the 1980 election.

The lie by omission was about the election results, not the source of the data.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 20, 2008, 01:02:24 PM
I don't see where Knuty lied, since he provided all the statistics.

The results of the 1980 election were that something like 49% did not prefer Reagan as president: some liked Anderson, some preferred Carter. I voted for Carter because I felt that he had been betrayed by Kissinger as well as people in the Reagan campaign conspiring against him in Iran. It was no coincidence at all that the hostages were released seconds after the Wrinkly One was sworn in: there had been a conspiracy to do this going on for months before.


Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Amianthus on November 20, 2008, 01:16:13 PM
The results of the 1980 election were that something like 49% did not prefer Reagan as president

And what did you say when others pointed out that in 1992, 57% of the population preferred someone other than Clinton? And that in 1996, nearly 51% of the population preferred someone other than Clinton?
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 20, 2008, 01:22:22 PM
I believe I said that I agreed with those that preferred Clinton.

I disliked Reagan and I still think he was a disaster. I still like Clinton, and think that he was a much better president than Reagan.


I do not always agree with the majority, and I do not have to: quite often the majority make mistakes. I always try to avoid mistakes.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 20, 2008, 02:54:43 PM
Knuty did not say that you, Ami, failed to post your source for the 1980 election.He said that he did, and that you OFTEN do not, which implies on other occasions, not necessarily this one. I have not kept a count of the percentage each person posts sources, but that is not the issue.

This is not an example of a lie, by omission or otherwise.

The point I was making which these two lame brains chose or were too stupid to see was that if the first Reagan victory was a landslide, so was Big O's . The real Reagan landslide was in his second term.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Plane on November 20, 2008, 07:22:01 PM
Actually, it is you , as usual , that is wrong . Even though Reagan's first win over Carter was called a landslide, he only got slightly over 50% .

You rarely get anything right.

Reagan got more than 9% of the popular vote over Carter (43,903,230 to 35,480,115) and got like 80% of the EC vote over Carter (489/90.9% to 49/9.1%).

And you never do because you never listen , but always shot off your arrogant mouth. All I said was that Reagan got barely over 50 % . There was a 3rd Party Candate that nearly got 7%

n 1980, Ronald Reagan carried 44 states with 489 electoral votes, compared to 49 for President Jimmy Carter, who won six states and the District of Columbia. But he only received 50.7% of the popular vote, while Carter took 41%, and Independent John B. Anderson (a liberal Republican) received 6.7%

And I posted my source something you rarely do.

More source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#1980_presidential_campaign

Does this mean that 59% voted for other than the Incumbent?
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Plane on November 20, 2008, 07:25:51 PM
Knuty did not say that you, Ami, failed to post your source for the 1980 election.He said that he did, and that you OFTEN do not, which implies on other occasions, not necessarily this one. I have not kept a count of the percentage each person posts sources, but that is not the issue.

This is not an example of a lie, by omission or otherwise.

The point I was making which these two lame brains chose or were too stupid to see was that if the first Reagan victory was a landslide, so was Big O's . The real Reagan landslide was in his second term.

Who really maintains that winning by a small percent is a landslide?

Reagans second election , or Nixons , were landslides , there hasn't been a Democrat leading a landslide since FDR.
Title: Re: Obama Landslide
Post by: Knutey on November 20, 2008, 08:59:50 PM
Knuty did not say that you, Ami, failed to post your source for the 1980 election.He said that he did, and that you OFTEN do not, which implies on other occasions, not necessarily this one. I have not kept a count of the percentage each person posts sources, but that is not the issue.

This is not an example of a lie, by omission or otherwise.

The point I was making which these two lame brains chose or were too stupid to see was that if the first Reagan victory was a landslide, so was Big O's . The real Reagan landslide was in his second term.

Who really maintains that winning by a small percent is a landslide?

Reagans second election , or Nixons , were landslides , there hasn't been a Democrat leading a landslide since FDR.

S'ok FDR had enough to make up for it.