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Title: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 12, 2013, 04:23:23 PM
Per the astutely sharp conservative, Charles Krauthammer:

I'm not sure he's going to give a speech about ideas or programs. In fact, if the inaugural address was sort of this extraordinarily ideological address, I think the State of the Union is going to be extremely aggressive and partisan. Obama is still campaigning, he hasn't stopped. Part one was to re-win the presidency, which he did. But now he is continuing his idea, his political objective now to is reduce, to fracture, to marginalize the Republicans in the House, who were the ones that stopped the agenda in years three and four of his presidency, and who he has to marginalize if he wants to enact his agenda in the second term.

So, I think he is going to be out there. He is really going to hammer Republicans on the sequester, that is the automatic spending cuts which Republicans in the House have announced they are going to allow it to be enacted unless Obama offers ultimate cuts. Obama wants a hike in taxes.

He's going to be, I predict, tomorrow night extremely aggressive against the Republicans on this. And he will then go through the litany of all the horrible stuff that is going to happen if the sequester happens. You know, all the food stamps taken out of the mouth of babies because the Republicans are protecting the oil companies, the corporate jet owners and the rich, et cetera, the usual suspects. I bet you, it's going to be at the heart of the speech, it's all to be able to beat back the Republicans so he can control Washington.
 

(Special Report, February 11, 2013) (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/11/krauthammer_state_of_the_union_going_to_be_extremely_aggressive_and_partisan.html)
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 12, 2013, 04:36:09 PM
NBC Journalists Agree: Obama 'Clearly Has the Upper Hand On the Budget'

On Sunday's Meet the Press, moderator David Gregory seized on an item in Politico arguing that upcoming sequester budget cuts could prove to be a "time bomb" for Republicans: "And the political pressure that's being brought to bear....'If sequestration happens now, House Democrats say they'll have tangible proof that the GOP is a dysfunctional party that can't even tie its own shoelaces'....Is that where the pressure is?"

Gregory posed that question to investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who replied: "I think the President clearly has the upper hand on the budget. Look, he won the election....Revenues being a part of the equation for cutting the budget, the President won on that....on that particular issue, he's got the upper hand. And it makes sense for him politically to hammer it – hammer it strongly."

Let the hardline partisan speech begin (http://www.mrc.org/biasalerts/nbc-journalists-agree-obama-clearly-has-upper-hand-budget)

Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 12, 2013, 05:38:32 PM
Two words: F U C K KRAUTHAMMER.

Krauthammer is an unrepentant cryptofascist who should always ignored except in that the sense that anything that he thinks should be done, should be buried and forgotten forever amen.

I certainly hope our President takes control: that is why we elected him.

Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 12, 2013, 06:20:22 PM
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Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 12, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
Two words: F U C K KRAUTHAMMER.

Krauthammer is an unrepentant cryptofascist who should always ignored  

The Namecalling Nazi out in full throttle
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: BT on February 12, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Not sure what the problem is. Biden on behalf of the administration worked out the deal with Mitch McConnell in the Senate. The house used the same bill when they passed it and sent it back to the Senate and then on to the President for signatures.

It's a White House Budget Control Act. Both houses and both parties had ample opportunity to stop sequestration from kicking in.

If that is the best they can do then let the legislation be enforced.
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 12, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
Indeed....Sequestration WAS part of the WH plan, yet what reporter is questioning any Democrat politician on that, as Obama & the left keep hammering the GOP as inferring that they're behind the sequestration cliff
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: BT on February 12, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
Well you do your best not to let them get away with it. And if that means writing a letter to the editor or posting on the network sites that they are lying so be it. And then you turn the tables and ask for good faith examples of Democrat Party sponsored cuts.
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 12, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
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Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: BT on February 12, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
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Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Plane on February 12, 2013, 10:27:49 PM
Two words: F U C K KRAUTHAMMER.

Krauthammer is an unrepentant cryptofascist who should always ignored except in that the sense that anything that he thinks should be done, should be buried and forgotten forever amen.

I certainly hope our President takes control: that is why we elected him.

So can't bring yourself to say that Krauthammer is wrong?
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 12, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
Okay, Krauthammer is WRONG!

Aswell as a crypto fascist asshole
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Plane on February 12, 2013, 11:54:30 PM
Well
What do you know, Krauthammer was wrong, the speech did not particularly hammer Republicans.

Wasn't much change and I didn't see much sign that the President understands his own words , but at least he was not entirely unfriendly.
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 13, 2013, 12:19:44 AM
57 Vacation Days Since Vowing He 'Will Not Rest Until Anyone' Can Find A GOOD Job
Unemployment still stands at 7.9 percent, actually higher than when he took office in 2009.
February 12, 2013
By Dan Gainor

 
It's time for the State of the Union address, which means the president is pivoting back to jobs once more. It's an annual game where President Obama pretends to be focused on employment and many in the media pretend to believe him.

Back in 2009, the president promised never to "rest" until the job situation was fixed. Nearly four years later, he's done a lot of resting.

According to The Weekly Standard, Pres. Obama has had 83 vacation days overall and Factcheck.org says he took 26 of those in 2009. That means the president has taken at least 57 vacation days since his vow not to "rest."

On Sept. 15, 2009, Obama spoke to General Motors plant employees in Warren, Ohio, about the "economic crisis." That's when the president made his promise. "But I want you all to know, I will not rest until anybody who's looking for a job can find one -- and I'm not talking about just any job, but good jobs that give every American decent wages and decent benefits and a fair shot at the American Dream," he told an applauding crowd. Obama has made the same promise (either as "I" or "we") since then, but that was the first evidence of his promise.

Dictionary.com gives several definitions for "rest." and one of the more generous of those is "a period or interval of inactivity, repose, solitude, or tranquility." By most definitions, that would include vacation.

But 1,245 days later, including at least 57 days off, millions of Americans are still out of work with unemployment at 7.9 percent, 0.1 percent higher than when he took office.

Now, the White House is deflecting criticism by saying jobs have always mattered. According to the Feb. 11 USA Today, "He will not be 'pivoting' back to the topic, [aides] add." The paper then cited spokesman Jay Carney and told readers "Obama has made jobs and the economy his primary emphasis since he began seeking the presidency in 2007."

Riiiiiiiiiiight (http://cnsnews.com/blog/dan-gainor/obama-57-vacation-days-vowing-he-will-not-rest-until-anyone-can-find-good-job)
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 13, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
Marco Rubio will have to try a LOT harder to become the Great Hispanic Hope. His rebuttal was weak, his delivery could have been  a lot  better. I have heard Hispanic politicians who really know how to get to an audience,and poor Marco sounded like a B+ in Speech 101 at Florida International.

Rafael Correa he ain't.

He's no Barack Obama either.The Pres. gave a great speech.
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: BT on February 13, 2013, 01:00:13 AM
Van Jones called him the dems worst nightmare. A minority when speaking from the heart who can connect with his audience.

Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 13, 2013, 07:46:57 AM
Except that he can't connect, and never will.
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: sirs on February 13, 2013, 12:49:28 PM
Not sure what the problem is. Biden on behalf of the administration worked out the deal with Mitch McConnell in the Senate. The house used the same bill when they passed it and sent it back to the Senate and then on to the President for signatures.

It's a White House Budget Control Act. Both houses and both parties had ample opportunity to stop sequestration from kicking in.

If that is the best they can do then let the legislation be enforced.

And yet, in the SOTU, President Obama said: We are more than halfway towards the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we need to stabilize our finances. Now we need to finish the job. And the question is: How? In 2011, Congress passed a law saying that if both parties couldn't agree on a plan to reach our deficit goal, about a trillion dollars' worth of budget cuts would automatically go into effect this year. These sudden, harsh, arbitrary cuts would jeopardize our military readiness, they'd devastate priorities like education and energy and medical research. They would certainly slow our recovery and cost us hundreds of thousands of jobs. And that's why Democrats, Republicans, business leaders, and economists have already said that these cuts -- known here in Washington as "the sequester'' -- are a really bad idea.

Any MSM reporter going to ask even 1 Democrat politician, that the inferred effort by the President that sequestration is a Congress animal, is actually their animal, conceptualized and proposed by the WH?
Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 13, 2013, 01:11:32 PM
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Title: Re: SOTU prediction
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 13, 2013, 01:14:35 PM


Obama's Speech Shows He Is A Fraud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj6Zo1ziHPw#)