No wonder Obama has his college records sealed....he probably flunked Math!

[Plane]

Leeches are a faulty metaphor for taxation?


I thought it rather traditional, conventional , in proximity of trite.

What would you think a perfect metaphore for taxation?

[Xavier_Onassis]

Taxation is a service charge, of course.
If you wish to live in any orderly society, you will need a government to provide services.

If you consider taxes to all be unjust, move to Somalia.

[sirs]

So who again is pushing the idea of abolishing all taxes??

[Plane]

So who again is pushing the idea of abolishing all taxes??

Anarchists!
http://www.bigheadpress.com/

Here is the theroy, well behaved people don't need a lot of government.

So government needs bad behavior for justifacation.

[Xavier_Onassis]

So who again is pushing the idea of abolishing all taxes??

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Anyone who believes that taxes are like leeches.
Humans do not need any leeches at all.
The argument is that leeches are a poor metaphor for taxes.

Are you really so dumb you cannot figure it out?

[sirs]

Are you really so ignorant, you'd think an analogy is equal to advocating abolishment of all taxes??  You're calling Plane an Anarchist??  Wow Plane, I never would have guessed....you're so mild mannered, and all     

[Plane]

  I will have to admit that leeches are unlike taxes in some ways .

Taxes do not make good fishbait.

[Xavier_Onassis]

I am not calling anyone anything. I simply said that taxes are not leeches. Referring to taxes as leeches is neither accurate nor poetic.

Bad behavior from at least some people in any society is a given. There have been no societies without someone behaving badly. Governments need to contain thieves, assassins and swindlers, provocateurs and con men, as well as to repel invaders.

All the supposed Edens of the world are either long ago or far away, just as the greatest heroes are historic.

Elect Ron Paul President and you will not get anything resembling utopia. Even if Paul is right, everyone who ever got a dollar from the government would likely oppose him and he would have close to zero support in Congress.
 

I discovered that in Ecuador Simon Bolivar was only 5"4" tall. Sucre was also a bit of a gnome. There are uniforms that pretty much confirm this. He looked good on a horse, but the best looking paintings, it turns out, were all painted by people who never saw him in person, or his horse, either.

Everyone knows that Sucre was assassinated by some rival, but why gets a lot of different answers, none of them terribly convincing.

[sirs]

I am not calling anyone anything.

YOU JUST DID

sirs; So who again is pushing the idea of abolishing all taxes??
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xo; Anyone who believes that taxes are like leeches

Plane is the one who referenced leeches in an analogy to taxes

plane; Leeches are a faulty metaphor for taxation?

I simply said that taxes are not leeches. Referring to taxes as leeches is neither accurate nor poetic.

Yet, you then followed up that if someone doesn't like taxes, they should move to Somalia, as if someone, Plane apparently) didn't want to pay any taxes or supported the idea.  Which brings us full circle;

sirs; So who again is pushing the idea of abolishing all taxes??
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xo; Anyone who believes that taxes are like leeches

Nice try, but they're your words, not mine

Bad behavior from at least some people in any society is a given. There have been no societies without someone behaving badly. Governments need to contain thieves, assassins and swindlers, provocateurs and con men, as well as to repel invaders.

AGAIN, WHO THE HELL IS ARGUEING FOR NO GOVERNMENT??  Why do you keep arguing a position, no one has made??

Elect Ron Paul President and you will not get anything resembling utopia.

He's NOT a candiate for President, so why would you reference his being elected??  Nor would I even remotely come to support him...unless of course the only other option were Obama, then I'd have to consider Paul.

I discovered that in Ecuador Simon Bolivar was only 5"4" tall. Sucre was also a bit of a gnome. There are uniforms that pretty much confirm this. He looked good on a horse, but the best looking paintings, it turns out, were all painted by people who never saw him in person, or his horse, either.

Everyone knows that Sucre was assassinated by some rival, but why gets a lot of different answers, none of them terribly convincing.

Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with what's being talked/debated about here   

[Xavier_Onassis]

If leeches are always desirable, and leeches are like taxes, then all taxes are also undesirable.

If there are no taxes, there is no government, except in Qatar Kuwait and the UAE.


Use your teensy little brain, sirs.

[sirs]

So you're saying Plane is an anarchist....yea, we got that that erroneous & ridiculous claim 1st time.  too bad he's not, nor is he advocating any sort of abolishment in either all taxes or all Government.  Why you keep debunking positions never made, merely keeps demonstrating how non-existent your position actually is.

But cudos on some more of your 3rd grade snarking.  That, you have down to a science

[Xavier_Onassis]

Plane is simply asking silly questions and making silly comments.

Taxes are unlike leeches in nearly every way.

I did not say Plane was an anarchist: I said that his simile "taxes are like leeches" is inaccurate about both taxes and leeches.

[sirs]

Plane is simply asking silly questions and making silly comments.

THEN WHO'S PUSHING THE IDEA OF WANTING TO ABOLISH ALL THINGS GOVERNMENT AND TAXES, THAT YOU KEEP ARGUING AGAINST??

[Xavier_Onassis]

ANYONE who claims that all taxes are like leeches, of course.

[sirs]

Which is what Plane did, in his analogy, and why you responded to him as you did......so, apparently, according to you, Plane's some kind of mild mannered Anarchist

Here's a news flash for you......he was merely using an analogy, that was pretty darn clever, btw.  Now you may disagree with the analogy, but to claim it equates to plane wanting to see an end to all Government and taxes, is pretty ignorant

In other words.....NO ONE HERE IN THE SALOON IS PUSHING THE IDEA OF WANTING TO ABOLISH ALL THINGS GOVERNMENT AND TAXES, THAT YOU KEEP ARGUING AGAINST