U.S. Government KNOWINGLY let Mutallab board Detroit flight

[BSB]

Ah, so it's about a power strugle within the Muslim world. Not about America at all.

[Amianthus]

The U.S.A. itself is a criminal nation.  Which, for example, explains why they will not submit to the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court of The Hague.

So, China and Russia are criminal nations as well?

[sirs]

d'oh

[Michael Tee]

<<Ah, so it's about a power strugle within the Muslim world. Not about America at all. >>

That's about as stupid as claiming that if the French Resistance executes French collaborators, it's all about a power struggle between Frenchmen and not about the Nazi occupation at all.

Like I said, get back to me when you reach Grade 10 levels of knowledge and understanding, BSB.  Till then, grow the fuck up.

[Michael Tee]

<<So, China and Russia are criminal nations as well?>>

Probably, but on a smaller scale.  The issue is American hypocrisy, not an American monopoly of criminality.  America can't commit ALL the international war crimes in the world, can it?

[BSB]

Oh, so they killed all those Muslims in Iraq because they're like the French Resistance, and the now dead Muslims were collaborators?

Ha ha.....no one believes that, not even Al Qaeda.

[BT]

Was the French Resistance and or their international allies justified in killing French Collaborators?

[Michael Tee]

<<Was the French Resistance and or their international allies justified in killing French Collaborators?>>

Sure, you're either a part of the solution or you're a part of the problem, and the collaborators were clearly a part of the problem.

[Michael Tee]

BSB, your last one wasn't even worthy of a response.

[BT]

Sure, you're either a part of the solution or you're a part of the problem, and the collaborators were clearly a part of the problem.

Then there are no innocent civilian casualties of our air strikes.

[BSB]

Ah huh, you better keep your mouth shut.

In this thread alone you've drooled, hissed, and spit that: The US Government wanted to have a plane full of Americans blown up on Christmas day for PR mileage. Al Qaeda is the equivalent of the French Resistance. And that the elderly, women, and children, blown up in the markets of Baghdad by Al Qaeda were collaborators.

You're a fool, and a joke.

[Michael Tee]

<<Then there are no innocent civilian casualties of our air strikes.>>

Sure there are - - how do you figure that?  Even the war criminals who order the air strikes pretend to feel great sorrow at the loss of innocent civilian lives, which they call "collateral damage."

[BT]

Sure there are - - how do you figure that?

Because either you are part of the solution or part of the problem. Doing nothing is not being part of the solution.

Even the war criminals who order the air strikes pretend to feel great sorrow at the loss of innocent civilian lives, which they call "collateral damage."

You believe they really think that or are they just showing false remorse to sway public opinion?

[Michael Tee]

I think I was trying to squeeze more mileage out of "You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem."  It's a maxim of limited use, applicable I think only when all the factors in the equation are active participants on one side or another.  (Classic example:  Nazi occupation, French Resistance, French Collabos.)

Doesn't seem on first blush to apply to neutral civilians .  But it could be argued in a time of great national trial, there is no "neutral" - - each and every one must take a side.  In the Baghdad marketplace, for example, the problem is the American occupation, the solution is the Resistance, the citizens who are not part of the Resistance are a part of the problem.  Dubya put it another way, either yer with us or yer against us.

But then you have children - - I guess THEY would be the real "innocents" on both sides.  The adults have a role to play.  Kids don't.

[BT]

I wouldn't discount children having roles in crisis of state.

Aren't children encouraged to report nonconforming behavior to the authorities.