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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on April 20, 2013, 12:56:46 PM
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What people are so unpopular that there are less than 200 in the U.S.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/19/chechens-immigrants-us-population/2097065/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/19/chechens-immigrants-us-population/2097065/)
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March 26, 2013
IMMIGRANT ASSIMILATION RISING IN U.S. SINCE GREAT RECESSION
As the debate over comprehensive immigration reform unfolds in Washington, a new Manhattan Institute report reveals dramatic changes in immigrant assimilation as a result of the so-called Great Recession. The report, Measuring Immigrant Assimilation in Post-Recession America, is authored by adjunct fellow and Duke University professor Jacob Vigdor.
Census Bureau statistics show that in the five years since the recession the foreign-born population has crossed a major milestone—the 40-million mark—for the first time in American history. The report utilizes the assimilation index, which is comprised of economic, cultural, and civic indicators, and reveals that immigrants are now more assimilated, on average, than at any point since the 1980s. While opposition to immigration reform has focused on newly arrived, unassimilated, and often undocumented immigrants from Mexico and nearby countries in Central America, Vigdor’s analysis of current demographic trends raises the possibility that the era of rapid immigration from Mexico is already behind us.
The report’s key findings include the following:
The immigrant population has shifted dramatically since the recession. Migration rates from Mexico have been very slow for the past five years, while rates from other parts of the world—notably Asia—have quickened.
· Between 2006 and 2011, overall immigration from Asia has seen a net increase of 1.4 million people. This includes major cohorts from mainland China and Vietnam as well as English-speaking countries such as India and the Philippines.
· By 2011, the total number of Mexican immigrants and the total number of immigrants from all Asian countries were roughly equal. In 2007, Mexican immigrants exceeded the number of Asian immigrants by 1.5 million.
Immigrants are now more assimilated, on average, than at any point since the 1980s. The rise in assimilation can be attributed to this slowdown and shift in the arrival rate of new immigrants. The rise in assimilation has been most apparent along cultural and civic dimensions. The immigrant population shows signs of recovering from the recession. Economic assimilation declined as growth slowed, but has regained its pre-recession level.
· Post-recession immigrants are more assimilated than those who arrived before the recession. In general, more recently arrived immigrants tend to be less assimilated. In a stark reversal of this historical pattern, post-recession immigrants are more culturally and economically similar to natives than immigrants arriving as much as a decade earlier.
· The bursting of the housing bubble played a role in increasing assimilation. Metro areas with the largest increases in immigrant assimilation tend to be those that were most affected by the housing boom-and-bust cycle. The evaporation of easy mortgage credit and construction-related jobs likely reversed the flow of new immigrants to these areas.
Assimilation Trends in Major U.S. Metro Area
New York and Miami top the list of destination areas with the most assimilated immigrants. The most noteworthy departures occur in Houston and the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex, where assimilation levels fall well below average—in the high teens in the Dallas area. Low assimilation in Texas cities reflects the high concentration of immigrants from Mexico and Central America in that region.
Mexican immigrants are also found in significant number in Southern California. The Los Angeles area posts the third-lowest assimilation level among the top ten immigrant destinations. In spite of its proximity to the Mexican border, the San Diego metro area posts an assimilation index above the national average.
o Assimilation has increased most rapidly in the “inland empire” encompassing Riverside and San Bernardino in Southern California.
o Two other metropolitan areas with significant housing price fluctuations in recent years—Orange County, California and Miami, Florida—have also witnessed large increases in assimilation.
This report demonstrates that the economic recession and its aftermath have altered the flow of migrants coming to the United States. This change is critical to the formulation of a forward-looking immigration policy.
KJ
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But what are the indicators of assimilation?
I looked it over twice and can't find how it comes by this data.
Economic,cultural and civic mark is not citing examples
If a chinese or korean studies less and works less and on don't trust authority does that means he's assimilated?
Housing bubble bursting help assimilation?
It abit of a fact asians and muslims who keep thier cultural roots would naturally be relatively unaffected by the burst due thier upbringing woud never allow them to fall for it. (Islamic business practice/ asian simply can't agree to such a mortgage plan)
If buying big screen tv and fancy smartphone is a indicator than i would agree .
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http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_76.htm#.UXR0yrR0XUQ (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_76.htm#.UXR0yrR0XUQ)
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By these metrics , wouldn't the bombers of the Boston marathon have been considered very well assimilated?
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Since saint patricks day exst in america does that mean the irish has not fully assimilated?
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What people are so unpopular that there are less than 200 in the U.S.
Glad there are only 199 now and will only be 198 after the Feds execute the other IslamoNazi punk.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/ItsZep/Politics/d590c6be-37c9-48a6-b443-34ed316aa196_zpsc0e8e967.jpg?t=1366607994)
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I actually trade several search variation to see if that number is wrong. I still get about that number.
But i do get conflicting data about concentration. One says most are at L.A. And other say boston.
Wiki is vague about the numbers in the u.s.
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Yeah Kimba...that figures does seem rather low.
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Kimba....as a side note
Saudi students in U.S. is up more than 500% since Sept. 11, 2001.
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From the data i found on chechens is their is a more severe opposition for them to make it in the U.S. .The russians community really really don't like them. Just think of it more disliked than post 9-11 saudi.
I think this maybe possible this not just a islamic terrorist thing. It maybe a case of not knowing who is the enemy nowadays.
Who here knew the u.s. had a chechen problem before the bombing.
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Who here knew the u.s. had a chechen problem before the bombing.
I don't think we have a checken problem after the bombing.
What we do have is a bomber problem.
Bomb Threats, USA...
Alabama: 3 Hospitals...
Connecticut: Courthouse...
Utah: Elementary School...
Pennsylvania: Shopping Village...
Iowa: Neighborhood...
Florida: Office Building...
drudge
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There might be a bunch of Chechens who have identified themselves as being from somewhere elese.
Also it is a rather small place that has been having hard times since Stalin.
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Kimba....as a side note
Saudi students in U.S. is up more than 500% since Sept. 11, 2001.
Hey, Celebrate Diversity!
Even ol' Hitler is on board...
http://t.co/CMFWOi9RfB (http://t.co/CMFWOi9RfB)
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In my day it wasn't called diversity. It was called a melting pot and even then people thought thier wasn't a need for it. Despite that history has shown every single great civilation has been caused by exposure to other cultures.
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Hey, Celebrate Diversity!
and this too!
STOP White GeNOcide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAebOPGpp0k#ws)
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I agree about the anti- white part, but about the asian stuff no. Assimilation in my part if the world is code for learn english only and learn only american things.
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Kimba.....
I think 100% of all teaching and gvt documents should be in English
The one way to further poverty especially in the Hispanic community
is to encourage people to speak non-english.
I dont care what people do at home
but if they are primarily raising their kids to not speak english...it's stupid as hell
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..... history has shown every single great civilation has been caused by exposure to other cultures.
Yes , if not ended that way.
Do people controll the rise and fall of culture?
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I said english only meaning no chinese at all. Teacher have told chinese parent to not to teach thier kids chinese so the kids will not be distracted.
But the kids who do take afterschool chinese classes tend to do pretty well anyway.
The reason i know this is because it happened to my nephew.
Don't get me wrong i ojbect to american town or place that frown upon english being spoken. But do not think speaking another language should be objectionable.
Culture is a tricky subject for us americans because seriously were kind of a country composed of little countries.Can you really say a californian,texan or new yorker has the same cultural reference.
I've notice many new yorkers think california are super dumb and come here to take advantage of that stupidity. But i have yet seen any get rich for thier trouble. They still grumble that californians are stupid. Californians can't handle the work pace of texas. Too slow.