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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on December 09, 2010, 04:29:59 PM

Title: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Brassmask on December 09, 2010, 04:29:59 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/the-clinton-crew-takes-ov_n_794430.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/the-clinton-crew-takes-ov_n_794430.html)

"The significance of this staff shift is beyond the operational. The Clinton-era alums, by outlook and experience, represent a centrist, pragmatic, pro-business "wealth-creation" wing of the Democratic Party that flourished during the Clinton presidency in the 1990s."


Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 09, 2010, 05:33:40 PM
Congrats to the Right?
Ha...what a joke!
This may hurt the Right.
This move makes an Obama reelection at least have a fighting chance.
Plus Brass they are preparing for Hillary as VP & bye bye to Foot-n-Mouth Biden.
What else can they do?
Now they will try to triangulate with substance instead of the 2008 fluff & BushHate.
The more pragmatic Clinton people Obama can hire and get rid of the far left
ideologues the better his chances will be to recapture some of the middle he has lost.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 09, 2010, 05:38:47 PM
Washington is a merry go round. It is not surprising in the least to see Clinton Alumni working with Obama.

Dick Cheney worked with Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush and GWBush
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Plane on December 09, 2010, 09:44:05 PM
Shocked !...shocked !...I am to learn that there are Democrats who think that wealth creation is a good idea.

  Linen must be turning ove in his grave.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Kramer on December 09, 2010, 10:57:45 PM
How in the hell does Clinton people help reelect a mentally ill, over-rated, incompetent, boob, as in Obama, in 2012?

The whole world knows Obama is a buffoon, and is unelectable, and the VOTERS sure as hell aren't going to put him back in charge for another 4 years. Only someone as mentally ill & incompetent (as Obama) would get excited over such a non issue as in the moron that gleefully posted this silly drivel.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 10, 2010, 12:21:24 AM
How in the hell does Clinton people help reelect a mentally ill, over-rated, incompetent, boob, as in Obama, in 2012?

Kramer dont underestimate the war over 2012 that is soon coming.
It's going to get very nasty...and Obama will get the help of liberal networks
This isn't going to be some cakewalk.

Who do we have that is a clear winner in a national Presidential election?

Newt? Yeah sure....Obama would beat him.
Palin?...Obama would beat her.
Pawlenty? Are you kidding me?
Jeb is bright enough to beat him, but has the wrong last name.
Jindal? Nope...he couldn't win.
Mitt? Not exactly lighting a fire under anybody.
NJ Gov Chris Christie could probably win...
But this is not going to be any cakewalk
The democrats have enough people sucking the tit of gvt that will vote for them no matter what.

Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: bsb on December 10, 2010, 02:09:19 AM
Among those whose names have been mentioned with any consistency, who is really competent enough to take the reins in 2012?

President Obama: no
Mitt Romney: has been too full of shit to tell
Sarah Palin: hell no
Jeb Bush: not running
Haley Barbour: no, slavery is no longer in fashion
Newt: please, the only thing he can do is sell books
Michael R. Bloomberg: most definitely, but will he run, and can he win?


bsb
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Kramer on December 10, 2010, 02:53:49 AM
John B. Anderson
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 10, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
Jeb Bush is dying to be president, but if he gets the nomination, it will be a stealth campaign. I think we can be pretty sure that Barbara Bush is thinking seriously about how to get Jebbie the nomination. He was a pretty sucky governor.

Bloomberg would not be a GOP candidate. He is too New Yorkish, too rich as well as too Jewish for the teabagger crowd.

How about Donald Trump, while you are considering weird possibilities? He'd LOVE to be president. He'd be the only one to enjoy it.
And there is Bobby Jindal, and that fat guy from Jersey.
Pawlenty is not reactionary enough.
Huckabee is a Jesus freak.

If Obama does not run, Hillary is by far the best bet.

Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 10, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
If Obama does not run??  When's the last time an incumbant President failed to run for re-election??  Even Carter ran for re-election.  Could Obama be worse than Carter??
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 10, 2010, 10:35:36 PM
Quote
When's the last time an incumbant President failed to run for re-election??

LBJ
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 10, 2010, 11:27:13 PM
Wow...and that's the "banner" folks like Brass are hoping he aspires to.  Cool.....I guess.  I'm still seeing Carter II though
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 10, 2010, 11:40:42 PM
I'm sure Brass will be glad to explain his position regarding Obama.

But Carter accepted the challenge from within his party and successfully fought to be renominated.
LBJ didn't.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 10, 2010, 11:46:29 PM
ummm......ok
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 10, 2010, 11:50:59 PM
If you see Carter II then it would follow that Obama will fight to be renominated.

Is that what you want?
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 11, 2010, 02:41:19 AM
LOL...."want"?  Bt, I'm not sure why, after all this time you've seen and read me on the various incarnations of the saloon, you'd ask such a question. 

My reference to Carter II has always been in comparing him to one of the worst presidents we've ever had

The issue here though is Obama, and specifically Xo's reference to questioning if Obama would run, with the mindset that Hillary would be just fine in taking over in running for President.  To me, that was a really bizarre mindset to actually think Obama wouldn't run for re-election.  How you turned that into me "wanting" Obama to run is......nearly as bizarre
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 11, 2010, 03:09:26 AM
He might not run if he is faced with a serious challenge. I'm not sure he likes doing the job of president, though he certainly liked winning the election.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 11, 2010, 05:11:32 AM
ummm.......ok
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Kramer on December 11, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
He might not run if he is faced with a serious challenge. I'm not sure he likes doing the job of president, though he certainly liked winning the election.


Generally speaking, people rarely like doing things they are bad at.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 11, 2010, 07:58:16 PM
He might not run if he is faced with a serious challenge. I'm not sure he likes doing the job of president, though he certainly liked winning the election.


Generally speaking, people rarely like doing things they are bad at.

Or makes true the old adage about being careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 11, 2010, 08:03:41 PM
Obama running for re-election?
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Kramer on December 11, 2010, 08:26:27 PM
He might not run if he is faced with a serious challenge. I'm not sure he likes doing the job of president, though he certainly liked winning the election.


Generally speaking, people rarely like doing things they are bad at.

Or makes true the old adage about being careful what you wish for.

I did that once -- thought I needed a job change so I changed jobs and then quickly realized that I hated the new job, the new company and that the old job wasn't so bad after all. Oh well, all things happen for a reason and had I not 'moved on' I doubt I would be doing what I'm doing today. And I really love what I do now, and make a good enough living at it so I have very little financial stress in my life.

Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: BT on December 11, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
It's amazing the forks in the road life takes.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Kramer on December 11, 2010, 08:48:48 PM
It's amazing the forks in the road life takes.


I'm glad life isn't predictable.

Although

I'm sure Adolf Hitlers parents assumed he would turn out to be a fairly good citizen, boy were they wrong.

I wonder about Obama's parents thoughts on where life would take their son...affirmative action certainly helped him along the way. Doesn't seem right that he would get that advantage to the detriment of our nation. I wonder how many doctors, lawyers, police, firemen, etc are filled with unqualified people. And sadly people that depend on them get the short end of the stick.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 12, 2010, 12:40:27 AM
I fully expect Obama to go for a second term, and if the economy improves enough, he is likely to win. The GOP has alienated the Latinos.

Other than Palin, Romney and Jebbie, other Republicans are largely unknown in the rest of the country.

Many things could happen between now and the GOP convention, but Romney has the best chance at this moment. That could change.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Amianthus on December 12, 2010, 08:13:33 AM
Other than Palin, Romney and Jebbie, other Republicans are largely unknown in the rest of the country.

So was Clinton in 1992.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on December 12, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
He might not run if he is faced with a serious challenge. I'm not sure he likes doing the job of president,
though he certainly liked winning the election.

(http://www.lucianne.com/images/lucianne/DailyPhoto/2010-12-11-BZXJV.jpg)
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 12, 2010, 10:34:40 AM
Generally speaking, people rarely like doing things they are bad at.

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And yet, you seem to enjoy posting rot here.
Title: Re: Congratulations to the Right! Hillary won after all.
Post by: sirs on December 12, 2010, 02:51:34 PM
Said the pot