Democratic Controlled US House Decides to NOT CLOSE GITMO!

[sirs]

And one more time, my reference is not to this bubble of this thread alone, where no other thread exists.

So your reply was prejudiced.

Not quite, more so biased, as it was deduced from the mountains of consistent rhetoric already on record.  But as i said, if we see Xo come forward and lay specific blame on the Dems and Obama, as it relates to not closing gitmo, I will be in error

Now my question to you is did the dems do wrong in not funding the closure of GITMO and the transfer stateside of the prisoners?

Not at all.  I applaud their lack of political cahones, on this issue. 

[BT]

Not at all.  I applaud their lack of political cahones, on this issue. 

More likely, typical inside the beltway horse-trading. The funding for the GITMO closure was left out of the final bill so they could get other pet projects through.

[sirs]

Putting aside the speculation to such, I'm sure that puts their constituents' minds at ease, then

[Xavier_Onassis]

By Congress being to blame, I mean a majority of Congress, which includes both Democrats and Republicans. It is pretty clear that Obama wanted to close Gitmo, and this was unfortunately prevented by Congress.

[sirs]

I was proven right, thanks Xo.  Dems had complete majority control.  They even passed Obamacare with an end around the filibuster, using reconciliation. 

But no, Xo has to make this about the GOP as well.  News flash Xo, the GOP never ran on a campaign to close Gitmo.  Obama had carte-blanche ability to pass anything and everything, including the closure of Gitmo.  Dems could have defunded Gitmo at any time Obama's 1st year.  Notice the theme?....DEMOCRATS are what impeded your liberal utopia.  DEMOCRATS are what "prevented" the closure of Gitmo.  Not "Congress"

[BT]

The move to block the prison's closure was written into a massive year-end spending bill that passed the House on Wednesday evening on a vote of 212-206, part of a last-minute legislative rush by Democrats to push through their priorities before ceding the House to Republican control in January....
The final bill passed with no Republican support, while 35 House Democrats broke with their party leadership to also oppose the bill.

What is interesting is that in this appropriations bill they didn't just leave funding out, they specifically
forbid spending any funds on closing GITMO or transferring prisoners.

On Guantanamo Bay, by blocking the administration from spending money on a replacement prison or any prisoner transfers, Congress would effectively stop the administration from acting over the next year.

And with Republicans dead-set against closing the prison, and poised to take control of the House in January, chances are virtually zero that Congress will relent any time before Mr. Obama stands for re-election in 2012.

"None of the funds provided to the Department of Justice in this or any prior act shall be available for the acquisition of any facility that is to be used wholly or in part for the incarceration or detention of any individual detained at Naval Station, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as of June 24, 2009," the bill says.

The bigger question remains what was in the bill that passed that was so odoriferous that 35 dems voted against their party.

[sirs]

Good question

[BT]

Which brings up the auxiliary question: By voting against the bill does that mean the GOP and the 35 dems were in favor of funding the closure of GITMO and transferring the prisoners stateside?

[sirs]

Pretty doubtful considering the public positions they (in particular, the GOP) have taken vs Obama and the vast majority of Democrats

[BT]

So it would be fair to say that they were against the entire bill and not just a small part of it?

Would it also be fair to say that the dems who voted for the bill could have been voting for the entire bill and not just the provisions that defunded the closing of GITMO, possibly in the hopes that that would free up funds for the projects that were dearer to their hearts?

[Christians4LessGvt]

BT why havent the Democrats that have control of both Houses of Congress
closed Gitmo as Obama promised would happen? Democrat House, Democrat Senate,
Democrat President and Gitmo is still open.

[sirs]

So it would be fair to say that they were against the entire bill and not just a small part of it?  Would it also be fair to say that the dems who voted for the bill could have been voting for the entire bill and not just the provisions that defunded the closing of GITMO, possibly in the hopes that that would free up funds for the projects that were dearer to their hearts?

You could "say it", but your bubble defense of the left again leaves out the consistent rhetoric and campaign pledges to the contrary

[Christians4LessGvt]

Look how much this dude has aged!

Obama's Plan to Close Guant?namo Bay Detention Camp (Gitmo) will be harder than he "thought"

[Christians4LessGvt]

You could "say it", but your bubble defense of the left again

Just curious....
why is it that BT has become a prosecutor when it comes to Republicans
and a defense attorney when it involves Democrats?

[sirs]

Letting his moderate roots spread?