"How many American hospitals have Atheists built?" is "All of them.".http://liberalslikechrist.org/+Believable/HospitalOrigins.html
So, what is the value of suffering?
I don't see any.
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Life lesson using pain as deterrent. My nephew the in karate finally learned to wear his cup when his sister kicked him in the balls. Niw he can adk his sister to never kick him there but he'll likely learn another life lesson if he tries that
Because of course, condemning someone for the misdeeds of an ancestor is unjust and silly.
Well, sure, destroying the ecological balance would punish future generations.
But the tale of Adam Eve and the talking snake ................
Most problems in our life are in our control and we are responsible to deal with it. Sadly we are not aware we can .
But I have seen palliative care a few times. Our doctors are scared to death of narcotic drugs and our laws.
The only way Big Pharma has some nefarious bone, is if they are intentionally misleading Dr's as to the efficacy of a drug, like Oxy. Can THAT be demonstrated?
http://www.kratomherbs.com/
It seems to be available now.
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Legislation is pending.
Practically anything that is an effective drug will have the government discourage it.
You just hate government.
FUCKING-A YES it makes you wrong. If you start off with the premise that "government is the problem", then every following idea based on that premise will also be wrong.
You just hate government.
Yes , but does that make me wrong?
........ If you start off with the premise that "government is the problem", then every following idea based on that premise will also be wrong.....
........ If you start off with the premise that "government is the problem", then every following idea based on that premise will also be wrong.....
I don't , that would be just as wrong as a belief that the government is Always the solution.
This country has 330 million people. That is more than double the number it was when I was born.
People got Obamacare because what we had before was inadequate and too expensive and the idea that the most profitable businesses in the country should be those that profit from the accidents and diseases of the most unfortunate citizens was loathed by a majority.
This country has 330 million people. That is more than double the number it was when I was born.
People got Obamacare because what we had before was inadequate and too expensive and the idea that the most profitable businesses in the country should be those that profit from the accidents and diseases of the most unfortunate citizens was loathed by a majority.
Would it not be nice if the government had grown no more than twice as large and expensive ?
The number of people doubling might excuse the size and expense of the government doubling, not quadrupling .
Would you buy a car if the governor outweighed the engine?
Would a ship be better if the pilothouse was larger than the hold?
Would an army work better if its generals outnumbered the privates?
I suppose a farm would be best if the farmer outweighed his chickens, cows and horses.
There probably a best size for government and a right price to pay for it, I would estimate that the right size is closer to the minimum necessary than to the maximum possible.
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The subject of this post is "the value of suffering", because Mother Teresa said that suffering per se had value and was appreciated by God.
I note that no one has seen fit to agree with Mother Teresa about this.
There is a long tradition in several religions regarding suffering as a manner of achieving enlightenment.
I think suffering sucks and should be avoided. Buddha tried suffering in the Forest of Trials
http://manganites.com/buddha/28-in-the-forest-of-trials
Discomfort and labor are not things I consider to be suffering.
The kind of suffering I am talking about is deliberate self-torture:self- flogging with metal whips, sitting on a bed of nails, the sort of things that Buddha saw and practiced in the Forest of Trials. See the link to the Life of Buddha manga I posted.
I hate to mow the yard, but if I postpone it too long it becomes harder and the yard looks worse.
but the government does what it does from reactions unlike god. when I came to this country we had homeless bodies in the streets every once in awhile. eventually it finally got stopped. we used to live with the term buyer beware. now we got things that rarely breaks. in matters of the government we really should treat it as a work in progress that needs tweeking.
A logical conclusion is never puny, you drooling imbecile.
You are basically saying that it is simply unthinkable to try to make any sense of your core beliefs, and not only that, but no one else has a right to, either.
You are saying that your determination to remain ignorant is preferable to all possible rational thought.
There is NOTHING or NO ONE that is not scientific.
Better than that , he IS doing Everything.
You mean, considering that Yahweh, as mentioned in the Bible (take the Book of Job, for example) is such a jerk?
If God is omnipotent, that means that he can do ANYTHING, right?
And that means he could explain cancer so a doctor capable of devising a cure could understand it.What makes you think he is not doing exactly that?
Because omnipotent is all powerful, and that excludes NOTHING.
If God already knows what you will do, than that is what you will do. You can have no free will.
Either God is omniscient or you have free will. If God is omniscient you have no free will.
If you have free will, then God is not omniscient.
This is a crappy analogy, because I did not create my students. They were NOT a product of my design. God, since he does EVERYTHING, according to you DID create all of us, knowing everything about us in every way from diaper to shroud.
Why would an omnipotent God need helpers?
God will recognize my talents and honesty if he has any sense.
It is not obvious at all. You really should READ the Bible, sirs.
Is the principal of "omnibenevolence" found in scripture?
I am really not familiar with it.
Wikipedia says this about it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibenevolence