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3DHS / Re: Proof Positive that Bush is now OFFICIALLY a KING
« on: September 22, 2006, 10:32:00 PM »
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Nice.  Way to facilitate some of that civil dialog you kept claiming was so missing from me, in prior debates with you.  The moral being don't practice what you preach?   


Wah. It was just an observation. Nothing to whine about, unless you want to point out to Ami that maybe it wasn't so nice to use that particular Smiley.

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3DHS / Re: Proof Positive that Bush is now OFFICIALLY a KING
« on: September 22, 2006, 07:07:02 PM »
Hehhehheh...I have mine set up to show the latest post at the top, so the arrow on the sign points to Sirs...

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3DHS / Re: From Forkem About Iranian Jurisprudence
« on: September 22, 2006, 03:00:54 PM »
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So this Judge would not like the Decision Jesus rendered on such a case?

The judge would probably tell you that their law is their law, and it is not up to you, nor anyone else, to tell them how to enforce it.

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BTW the accused male ws also convicted and was condemmed to an hundred lashes.

Not unusual, in a male-dominated society. And like I said, it is their law.

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3DHS / Re: From Forkem About Iranian Jurisprudence
« on: September 22, 2006, 08:50:19 AM »
So she was hanged for “acts incompatible with chastity”. I would take that to be something along the lines of adultery, so the punishment is more in line with the Old Testament punishment for that crime, though probably a bit more humane - the Hebrews stoned them to death.

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3DHS / Re: Is the Hitler analogy outdated?
« on: September 22, 2006, 08:41:50 AM »
My response was to your analogy of milk, and Sirs 'excellent hypothetical' remark.

If the government wants to track Ammonium Nitrate and concentrated Hydrgen peroxide, let them have at it - at least they have the excuse that those can actually be used to make weapons. But milk?

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3DHS / Re: Scares me worse than torture
« on: September 22, 2006, 08:38:53 AM »
Looks like they're putting an old monitor degaussing wand to the back of someone's head.

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3DHS / Re: Did you know that Filet o' Fish is an al Qaeda favorite?
« on: September 22, 2006, 08:35:54 AM »
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Pardon my controlled bluntness, but after reading this article, for those BDS folks & anti-war folks who still spew the dren of how we "torture & abuse" the prisoners we capture in this current war, comparable to what terrorists perform on their prisoners and who could give a flying flip at the Geneva Convention, your continued asanine portrayals of just how thug like and evil our Military & Administration are, simply demonstrates how utterly devoid you folks are at objectivity and critical reasoning

Pardon my bluntness, but don't be a d*ck.

If the abuses hadn't been uncovered and made public, do you think we would be going out of our way now to treat them correctly? And any comparison to whether or not the terrorists recognize or adhere to the Geneva Conventions is null and void; they are not signatories, we are. If we don't intend to honor the Conventions, maybe Bush should just be honest and repudiate them.

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3DHS / Re: Let's get serious.....Is Ahmadinejad another Hitler?
« on: September 21, 2006, 08:32:02 PM »

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3DHS / Agreement reached on interrogations
« on: September 21, 2006, 08:25:26 PM »

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3DHS / Re: The Devil made him do it
« on: September 21, 2006, 08:20:48 PM »

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3DHS / Ooooh, good one! "Here, we're turning you loose, go home..."
« on: September 21, 2006, 07:56:01 PM »
Iraqis using kidnap victims as bombers, By DAVID RISING, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents are now using unwitting kidnap victims as suicide bombers — seizing them, booby-trapping their cars without their knowledge, then releasing them only to blow up the vehicles by remote control, the Defense Ministry warned Thursday.

The Iraqi announcement — the latest development in the deadly war waged by the insurgency — came as widespread lawlessness swept the capital Thursday with kidnappings, deadly attacks on police, the discovery of more mutilated death squad victims and a brazen daylight bank heist by men dressed as Iraqi soldiers.

It was unclear from the Defense Ministry's statement whether the insurgents are using kidnap victims because they are having trouble finding recruits for suicide missions. Suicide car bombs are responsible for 7 percent of the total Iraqi deaths this year — down considerably from 25 percent of the overall deaths in the last eight months of 2005, according to an Associated Press count.

A U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity said he was aware of such incidents but was unable to provide further details. American officials have said in the past that insurgents often tape or handcuff a suicide driver's hands to a car, or bind his foot to the accelerator pedal, to ensure that he did not back out at the last minute. The remains of such hands and feet have been found at blast sites.

Although roadside bombs are the main weapon used by insurgents, suicide car bombers are often their most effective one — designed to maximize casualties and sow fear among the population. According to the Washington-based Brookings Institution, since the fall of Saddam Hussein to Sept. 17 there have been 343 suicide car bombings involved in attacks causing multiple deaths around Iraq.

"According to our intelligence information, recent car bomb explosions targeting checkpoints and public places have nothing to do with (traditional) terrorist operations," the Defense Ministry said in its statement.

It said that first "a motorist is kidnapped with his car. They then booby-trap the car without the driver knowing. Then the kidnapped driver is released and threatened to take a certain road."

The kidnappers then follow the car and when the unwitting victim "reaches a checkpoint, a public place, or an army or police patrol, the criminal terrorists following the driver detonate the car from a distance."

The U.N. Assistance Mission in Iraq's Human Rights office warned that the number of Iraqi civilians killed in July and August hit 6,599, a record high number that is far greater than initial estimates had suggested and points to the grave sectarian crisis gripping the country.

It offered a grim assessment across a range of indicators, reporting worrying evidence of torture, unlawful detentions, the growth of sectarian militias and death squads, and a rise in "honor killings" of women.

The United Nations' chief anti-torture expert warned Thursday that torture may now be more widespread than it was under Saddam's regime, with militias, terrorist groups and government forces disregarding rules on the humane treatment of prisoners.

"What most people tell you is that the situation as far as torture is concerned now in Iraq is totally out of hand," Manfred Nowak said in Geneva.

More than a dozen apparent victims of death squads were found in the capital Thursday, many showing signs of torture.

A U.S. soldier was killed Thursday while operating in the restive Anbar province west of Baghdad, the military announced. Earlier in the day, the military said another American soldier was killed in northern Baghdad on Wednesday when a roadside bomb exploded next to the vehicle in which he was traveling.

Despite the bloodshed, coalition forces moved ahead with plans to turn security responsibilities over to Iraqi troops by the end of 2007.

Italy formally handed over the reins of the relatively quiet Dhi Qar province in the south. It was the second of Iraq's 18 provinces to be turned over to local control, and paves the way for most of Italy's 1,600 troops to return home by the end of the year — a campaign promise by new Prime Minister Romano Prodi.

The overall U.S. strategy calls for coalition forces to redeploy to larger bases and let Iraqis become responsible for their security in specific regions. The larger bases can act in a support or reserve role to Iraqi troops should they need help. No timeframe has been set for the eventual drawdown of troops from Iraq.

In the Baghdad bank robbery, an AP reporter saw about 15 armed men in three pickup trucks pull up outside a branch of the Rafidain Bank in the Karrada area, a downtown commercial neighborhood.

The well-organized robbery appeared to witnesses to be a regular salary pickup. Two or three of the men entered the bank, then five people exited with bags, accompanied by a man in civilian clothes who appeared to be carrying documents. They got back into their vehicles and drove off.

No shots were heard, but police 1st Lt. Mahmoud Khayyoun said a bank manager was injured and the assailants got away with an unknown amount of cash.

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Associated Press reporters Patrick Quinn, Qais al-Bashir, Muhieddin Rashad and Bushra Juni contributed to this report from Baghdad.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060921/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060919194348

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3DHS / But Christians don't do that, right?
« on: September 21, 2006, 07:27:37 PM »
Three Sulawesi militants executed

Three Indonesian Christian militants sentenced to death for attacks on Muslims in 2000 have been executed by firing squad.

Fabianus Tibo, Marianus Riwu and Dominggus Silva were found guilty of inciting attacks during religious rioting in Central Sulawesi in 2000.

The execution was delayed last month after an appeal from the Pope.

Local community leaders have expressed concern that the executions might re-ignite religious violence.

"It has been done... the location was around the airport," a police official who would not give his name told Reuters news agency.

He said the bodies had been taken to a police hospital.

Some 4,000 extra troops had been deployed in religiously-divided Sulawesi to boost security ahead of the executions.

Gang violence

The men say they are innocent of the charges that they masterminded a series of attacks on the Muslim community in the Central Sulawesi district of Poso in 2000, killing at least 70 people.

The attack was part of a wave of violence that left more than 1,000 people killed. It was triggered by a brawl between Christian and Muslim gangs in December 1998.

The execution had been due to take place last month, but the three were given a reprieve after a plea for clemency from Pope Benedict XVI and demonstrations by thousands of Indonesian Christians.

The militants' supporters and rights groups have questioned the fairness of the trial.

Three Muslim militants are also currently on death row for their part in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed more than 200 people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5368922.stm

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3DHS / Confession
« on: September 21, 2006, 04:36:02 PM »
America… I Apologize!
by Tom Chartier

My fellow Americans, it is with a heavy heart that I must confess. I have transgressed. I have committed the most heinous crime of our great land. I have been… hang on... OK.... the lawyer firm, which represents me, Dewey, Cheatem and Howe, has plea-bargained my sentence. If I plead guilty, I will not be charged for high treason for wearing the “Bush is a Moron T-Shirt” when last I visited Washington, DC. You see, I must admit that I have been… thinking!

My name is Thomas Chartier and I am a think-a-holic. I have been thinking, openly even!

Please dear readers, forgive me. I didn’t know it was wrong until I learned from our Great President and Decider, George W. Bush that thinking is unacceptable. Now I know. Of course, ignorance of the law is no excuse… unless you’re The President. I’ve been a blatant scofflaw for years.

As decreed by The Burning Bush, thou shalt not think! On Friday, September 15, President Bush stood in the sunshine of the White House Rose Garden to issue his “bull” on the weighty subject of Thought Crime.

Thinking. Evidently that is what The Decider does… by thinking big thoughts, Bush negates our need to think at all. Awfully decent of him. Although so far, I haven’t seen any evidence of thinking in George W. Bush. Maybe he only does it when he’s having a power lunch with God.

My evil ways started a long time ago… as a spry young whippersnapper. I learned to… read! I studied. I have even read such ancient frivolity as The US Constitution, The Bill of Rights, The Declaration of Independence, The Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act, The Geneva Conventions! Shame! Shame! Shame! Will all great Neptune’s ocean wash this shame clean from my hands? No way in Hell! I’ve been… thinking!

Thinking got me into hot water. I entertained crazy notions: I became mad as hell and wasn’t going to take it anymore! Enraged at the networks for feeding me tripe, I recycled my television! Out the window it went, crashing several stories below on the sidewalk. The collateral damage was negligible. Some neighborhood hoodlums fought over the useless parts.

That was how low I had fallen: I had an addiction to using my brain! I preferred thinking to blankly staring at a $3,000 HDTV flat screen TV!! OK, OK, I’m lying. So what? Why, is that not against the law? I can’t afford a $3,000 TV and you all know it. I tossed out my old Zenith black and white. For those of you who are young, TV used to come in two colors, black and white. No, no, no! I don’t mean like last year’s iPods! I mean the picture was a black and white image. Anyway, I tossed it out. I preferred a book to The Man Show! Shocking isn’t it?

Disgraceful! I have been using my brain rather than simply allowing The Shrub to fill it up with balderdash. Thinking has led me astray down the path of enlightenment. Well, that simply won’t do in the Modern America! Therefore I make the following pledge.

I promise faithfully that never, ever again will I doubt that:

I can make enough TATP (triacetone triperoxide) from household chemicals to blow up an airplane in the airplane lavatory!
Islamo-Facists are hiding under my bed and in my closet!
Iraq is better off today than it was in February of 2003.
The Taliban has been defeated in Afghanistan.
We are safer now than before 9/11.
Torture generates true confessions.
The Geneva Conventions are “quaint.”
Illegal wiretapping is keeping us safe.
They hate us for our freedoms.
President George W. Bush speaks to God.
Spreading democracy by murdering thousands of innocent civilians is a good thing.
I’m so ashamed I ever questioned The Word of The Almighty Decider-in-Chief. My only excuse… I was… thinking!

My lawyers assure me I will not be charged for doubting the truths listed 1–11, above. All I have to do is sign a confessional… freely given… to the crime of thinking. And if I name three other people who have committed the same offense, the feds won’t press charges. Sorry Lew. Sorry Mike (in Tokyo) Rogers. I know you’d do the same for me. And so, so sorry Thomas Jefferson. You’ll be sent to Gitmo retroactively. I can’t hold my breath for very long. I haven’t had the time to adjust to the technique of water boarding. No hard feelings? Besides, I’m not ready for a vacation at the Gitmo Resort and Spa. I want to go straight home to my TIVO and La-Z-Boy recliner. Where’s my Soma?

So dear readers, save your selves from my fate! Save your children! It’s not too late. Plug in the X-box! Catch every episode of American Idol! Never miss an installment of FOX news! Use those newspapers to wrap fish only! Burn your books! Boycott the libraries! Don’t read subversive columnists! Don’t read… ME!

I am guilty… of thinking. Whew! Boy, I feel so much better now that I got that out!

Elizabeth Gyllensvard edited and contributed to this article.

September 21, 2006
http://www.lewrockwell.com/chartier/chartier29.html

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3DHS / Re: The Devil made him do it
« on: September 21, 2006, 03:58:49 PM »
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If further evidence were needed as to how low the U.S. has sunk in world public opinion under Bush, this latest would be very much to the point.

And that's really sad, considering how much goodwill we had coming our way after 9-11. Even when we went into Afghanistan, it was seen as going after the ones who had attacked us and the regime that was sheltering them. Bush squandered it on Iraq, though.

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3DHS / I wonder if Dubya and Condi got the kiddie plate?
« on: September 21, 2006, 09:26:53 AM »

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