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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on May 23, 2011, 09:53:20 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/23/guess-the-artist-photo_n_865376.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/23/guess-the-artist-photo_n_865376.html)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/280777/GUESS-THE-ARTIST.jpg)Like many sculptors in the nineteenth century, this artist traveled to Italy and made copies of well-known Italian sculpture. This practice was an important learning experience and it also provided the sculptor with a highly marketable work of art, as American tourists would frequently purchase these copies on their trips abroad. Working in the Neoclassical style, this artist is best known for creating original sculpture with political and moral messages.
Guess the artist in the poll below and come back tomorrow for the reveal, as well as more information about this remarkable artist.
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no!!!!!!!!!!!
I`ve seen dozens of rhodan and that aint it
the style is way off
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no!!!!!!!!!!!
I`ve seen dozens of rhodan and that aint it
the style is way off
This was made as a copy of a Michaelangelo found on the Vatican, so whoever the artist is it is not his own style.
Take the poll under the link, after I voted it looked like the four artists offered as choices were even.
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I imagine that more people chose Rodin because the others were all less well-known, and perhaps Rodin was the only sculptors' name on the list they had heard of.
It's a copy. If it is a good copy, how could anyone tell from a photo? At the very least, you would have to get up close, and be an expert on chiselwork.
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Antonio Canova
look at the cloth it the same as his other works
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I should admit I knew nothing about two of them.
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Nor did I. I am sure I heard the names of the sculptors,but I have forgotten two of them. Canova and Rodin I remembered. I toured Rodin's museum in Paris for several hours. I also visited Mirós museum in Barcelona. He did some sculptures and mobiles.
I have studied art and even taught a course in Art Appreciation (I covered the aesthetic theory part) but sculpture is shortchanged in most textbooks. There are so many more paintings than sculptures that I am deficient in that area.
Being able to tell the creator of a COPY is a more difficult chore than an original. The copier is copying a style other than his own.
The original is Leonardo.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_(Michelangelo) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_(Michelangelo))
I wonder if Michaelangelo and Leonardo ever met and had a conversation.
If they did they probly talked shop, where to buy the best turpentine , the outragous cost of scaffolds....
I thought I saw the origional when I was in Rome , but looking at the grouping in wicipedia I realised that I must have been looking at another copy.
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http://100swallows.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/the-great-brushfight/ (http://100swallows.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/the-great-brushfight/)
Actually, they did meet.
Leonardo lived to be about 67 years old, 1452 to 1519
Michaelangelo lived about 89 years, from 1475 to 1564
So from maybe 1470 to 1519, they were both alive and working.
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Yesterday we showed you the work of art below and asked you to guess the artist who created it. Thousands of you guessed in our poll, but less than 20% of you correctly identified the artist. The sculpture is a copy of Michelangelo's Moses by Edmonia Lewis.
Lewis (1845 -1907) was an American sculptor who worked in the Neoclassical style. She was the daughter of a black father and Chippewa Indian mother. Throughout her life, Lewis faced racial and gender discrimination, and this struggle is present in her works.
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26360/slide_26360_282984_large.jpg?1306545265234)
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26360/slide_26360_282982_large.jpg?1306545414909) (http://huffpost.com/)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/Cleopatrabyedmonialewis.jpg)
(http://url=http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26360/slide_26360_282983_large.jpg?1306545506491]) (http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/26360/slide_26360_282983_large.jpg?1306545506491[/url])
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonia_Lewis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmonia_Lewis)
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It is an excellent copy.
She was an excellent sculptor.
But an excellent copy should show the peculiarities of the artist who sculpted the original, not the copyist.
A good counterfeiter never signs his own work.
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I was wrong.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Rodin-cropped.png/250px-Rodin-cropped.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Rodin_The_bronze_age.jpg/324px-Rodin_The_bronze_age.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/St-John-the-Baptist-Preaching.jpg/304px-St-John-the-Baptist-Preaching.jpg)
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Again. the Moses is a copy.
If it is a good copy it should be impossible to tell, unless you have closeups of the chiselwork and such.
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But an excellent copy should show the peculiarities of the artist who sculpted the original, not the copyist.
A good counterfeiter never signs his own work.
That is an interesting take on it.
(http://[url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Moses_San_Pietro_in_Vincoli.jpg/400px-Moses_San_Pietro_in_Vincoli.jpg]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Moses_San_Pietro_in_Vincoli.jpg/400px-Moses_San_Pietro_in_Vincoli.jpg[/url])
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/280777/GUESS-THE-ARTIST.jpg)
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Again. the Moses is a copy.
If it is a good copy it should be impossible to tell, unless you have closeups of the chiselwork and such.
Oh I get it , you think the guessing is unfair , anyone trying to produce a faithfull copy would work more like Michaelangelo than themselves!
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I think that guessing who made a copy is a rather foolish exercise.I do not think it is important enough to call it "unfair".
It is like asking "which famous counterfeiter drew this $20 bill?
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actually a student can be taught to copy the style of the teacher completely. rembrant had a student who can make paint exactly like his. I think his name is fleck.n I`ve seen it it was really dead on. the bad part was rembrant signed his name on it so alot of folks thought it was his. it`s simply what teachers did in those days to show approval of students works
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That is pretty much my point.
I suppose with sculpture, the physical strength of the sculptor might make it necessary for one to tap the chisel once and another twice, but paint and sketching would be less individualistic.