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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on February 27, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
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only on tv I hear family prefer thier love ones die a painful lingering death,but in my experience I have never seen this. It`s always a very stressful affair. I know one person took very expensive meds to live five very painful months and the end result is massive debt for the widow and the idea came from the doctor not the patient or the family.
note sometimes not going extreme will lenthen life. I believe I added 3 months to my fathers life by turning down the surgery to fix his condition. Even the doctor agreed thiers a chance he would not survive operation. those 3 months were very happy moments for my dad ands family. often I hear people say they wished thier loved ones died this way.
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Kimba....my Mom and i used to discuss/debate this
it was during Kevorkian's hey day
i tend to think people should be able to end their own life at will
if i was in excruciating pain with almost no chance to survive
i wouldn't mind an overdose of something like anesthesia
of course the person has to be determined to be of sound mind
my 17 year old cousin tried to commit suicide cause her boytoy broke up with her
she actually survived the attempt and killed someone else
now she sits in prison
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actually I was at two assisted situation and both times the parties involved had no regrets at all. going through such discomfort simply too noticeable . I agree of sound mind. But at a lower pain level,peoples pain tolerance varies. Remember pain harm the body. It`s the reason massive pain meds are given after surgury. The subject of pain is abit more complicated
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Medicine gets better , what will our situation be if we can depend on long pain free lives?
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We will be older, of course, and live more pleasant lives.
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Will the rich ever die?
Will the poor sell them more organs?
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Possible
Since i had kidney failure I found out alot of people for various reasons got it also. I mean a serious amount, so the demand for organs is definately thier.
So if i ever end in a mysterious tub of ice those folks will be very dissapointed with my damaged goods.
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I doubt that people can ever be immortal. There are parts of the body that cannot be replaced, like bones, which get brittle over time.
If we can grow hearts, kidneys, lungs and other organs, we can probably extend life to maybe 160 years.
CU4 might have enough money to be a 400 year-old head in a jar, who knows?
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if dollhouse technology(download brain to computer) was real that would be an effective form of immortality and as long as humanity is around you can chose what body you want with the advantage instantly adding skills to yourself. death would simply be an inconvience since you have a backup copy of yourself if something goes wrong.
Dollhouse Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcEKo4V7fA#)
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CU4 might have enough money to be a 400 year-old head in a jar, who knows?
i promise there will be a smile on my face.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/ItsZep/Politics/3cca632f.jpg)
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I doubt that people can ever be immortal. There are parts of the body that cannot be replaced, like bones, which get brittle over time.
Bones are already replaced in certain cumstances, 3D printing tecnology should expand these circumstances pretty soon.
Recently some important advances were made in spliceing broken nerves, growing new liver tissue, designing artificial hearts, etc. etc.
If one avoids accident , death might become a matter to be negotiated with a death panel.
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I think that most experts agree that parts of the human body simply wear out and cannot be replaced. It would be hard to replace a skeleton. If there were a way to keep a head alive and in a functioning state, I suppose that this could be done for longer than an entire body, but it would not be eternal. I do not think a brain would last forever, and the personality all memories are contained in the brain.
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A head doesn't have a kidney, the whole package is necessacery.
Some parts may be replaceable with mechanical substitutes, but now why not replace the head with a mechanical substitute ?,... then you need not have a kidney or liver, heart or blood.
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Plane kinda like dollhouse technology
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I own George Washington's hatchet.
You know , the one that chopped down the cherry tree.
It is handed down in the family, awesome and usefull.
The handle has to be replaced every five years or so...
The head has to be replaced every three or four decades.
Don't doubt tho that this is that hatchet!
What is me?
If my leg is titanium and/or my heart is hydralic , I am changed only a bit.
When my body is mostly mechanical I will not be someone elese.
When my memorys are backed up on magnetic media, it will still be me that compiles them.
When my senses are augmented by glasses, then by implanted cameras microphones and feild effect sensors is it not still me looking out the window?
But when each failing part has been replaced by steel and silicon, till not a speck of the origional matter remains, will I be there?
Will the durable entity that I have become need to be me?
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Only you will be able to decide that.