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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Xavier_Onassis on October 15, 2012, 02:37:39 PM
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1. Governor of Massachusetts
2. 45th President of the United States
3. 17th President and Prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter Day Saints.
Yes! It is TRUE! Romney could easily be actually getting messages from God in as few as FIVE YEARS!
Ezra Taft Benson was Ike's Secretary of Agriculture and then became the 13th President and Prophet.
The largest Latter Day Saint denomination is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the church's leader and the head of the First Presidency, the church's highest governing body. Latter-day Saints consider the president of the church to be a prophet, seer, and revelator, and refer to him particularly as the Prophet, a title originally given to Joseph Smith, Jr. When the name of the president is used by adherents, it is usually prefaced by the honorific title "President".
Thomas S. Monson, President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Latter-day Saints consider the president of the church to be God's spokesman to the entire world. He is considered to be the highest priesthood authority on earth, with the exclusive right to receive revelations from God on behalf of the entire church or the entire world. Modern presidents, however, have not generally continued Joseph Smith's practice of publishing written doctrinal revelations and visions, although most have stated that they have received them.[citation needed]
The President of the Church serves as the head of the Council on the Disposition of the Tithes and the head of the Council of the Church. The President of the Church also serves as the ex officio chairman of the Church Boards of Trustees/Education.
Monson is 85. he has lived a clean and wholesome life as a non smoking, non drinking, non caffeine drinking and probably non gum chewing fellow, but he won't live forever.
Time for Romney to become a Prophet, and YOU can help!
Of course, the LDS does run the risk that Romney might suffer a relapse of Bain-ism and transfer the Tabernacle to the Moonies and ensconce all those tithes in his Cayman Island holding company. But that might be prevented if the Big Guy that lives in the neighborhood of the Star Kolob gets wind of it.
No Planet for you, Willard! He might say in his booming Almighty voice.
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When you're ready to post something serious, give us a heads' up
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When you're ready to post something serious, give us a heads' up
SIRS...when ya got nuttin 2show, it's time to try and scare people.
i doubt it's going to work
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Indeed. Does Xo make any effort to try and debate these issues? nope. Does he make any effort to answer direct questions posed to him by others? nope. Instead we get this ludicrous piece trying to attack Romney thru his faith in God.
Does he REALLY want to open up that can of worms, when his guy's main spritual squeeze was Rev Jeremiah Wright?? Could we equally and wrecklessly claim that Obama is spearheading a Caliphate form of Government, upon re-election?
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Hey Romney is the dude that could easily be the next Prophet. Ezra Taft Benson made it, and he was just Sec. of Agriculture.
The word from Kolob may be coming soooon to a dorkfest near you!
You missed the ASSHOLES FOR ROMNEY button.
Like I said. no one can debate with either of you clowns.
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Hey Romney is the dude that could easily be the next Prophet. Ezra Taft Benson made it, and he was just Sec. of Agriculture.
Just to placate your delusional tangents, what on earth, or in heaven for that matter, would make you claim Romney's looking for such a position?? How is merely being a devoted Christian tantamount to seeking some almighty position within the Church??
There's as much credibility in that claim, as Obama looking to turn this country into a Caliphate. Actually more, considering his long term support, admiration, and teaching by Pastor Wright. The father figure he apparently never really had
This should be entertaining
Like I said. no one can debate with either of you clowns.
Yet you respond with such immature precision. Hard to debate such unsubstantiated garbage, but I gave it a try. Ball in your court
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I bet Romney is seriously considered for Prophet even if he loses. Two outta three ain't bad, as they say...
He might even get his own planet, too. There are lots to go around.
This seems quite likely, by the way.
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That didn't even remotely answer the question. Let's try again....What could possibly make you claim Romney's looking for such a position?? How is merely being a devoted Christian tantamount to seeking some almighty position within the Church??
Is this more of that leftist projection?? Arguing against positions/stances never made??
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Romney is a good Mormon, a bishop in the LDS. As I said, he will be on a short list for the LDS presidency, because he has done more than anyone since Bigamy Young to advance the cause.
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So, in other words, you have squat as it relates to this latest ludicrous leap of illogic, outside of his devotion to Christ. Well, you haven't seen nothing yet, when Obama unleashes the U.S. Caliphate. He did pledge he was going to fundamentally change this country. No better way than becoming a Caliph himself
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Note that I phrased this as a question.
I really do not believe that the LDS has all that much to do with Jesus.
In Mormon theology. God is but one of many Gods, each sitting on his own planet. It is normal for these Gods (who were once humans) to have children and wives.
Mitt seems to be charitable towards other Mormons, but towards the American people, he is just a rerun of Juniorbush.
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Right...since you have squat support for the Romney claim, let's try changing the subject to charity, and who gives more, both in amount and % of income...Romney vs Obama. You really want to go there??
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I am not changing any topics for you.
No one elects a president because they expect him to personally reward them with charity.
Again, if and when Romney becomes the next Mormon Prophet, remember you heard it first here.
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And just as credible, if & when Obama becomes the 1st U.S. Caliph, you heard it here 1st as well
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That might be a little old fashioned.
Like the monarch of England being the head of the Anglican Church.
Or the Dali Lama being the DeFacto government on exile of Tibet , even if he doesn't want to be.
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The Queen is the official head of the Church of England, but she lets the Archbishop of Canterbury do all the presiding. She gets to dress up for special occasions. Her Royal Britannic Majesty is mostly decorative.
The Dalai Lama is the official head of the Tibetan government in exile, though he does delegate a lot of his duties.
Neither the Queen nor the Dalai Lama actually claims to link the people with God, like the Mormon Prophet.
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That is the old fashioned part, the pope takes his title from the latin words for "bridge builder" he is supposed to be that conduit.
This is one of the disagreements with prodestants , even more so Pentacostals.
Become Pentacostal , God can talk to you too.
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I do not question that some people think they hear God talk to them. This may or may not be a mental condition like that of the "Son of Sam" who took orders from a dog.
I am sure that they are convinced of this. I have heard far too many goofy things from such people to take them seriously.
Prophet, however, is a different role. A Prophet is a person divinely instructed to listen to God and pass along His words. The Pope does not claim to be a prophet. Pontiff, as you say, means "bridge", but the way that works is that the Pope is considered infallible only on matters of doctrine and dogma. What this means is that if the Pope gets it wrong, God will understand the sincerity of those who took the Pope's advise and not punish them for following the directive. If this sounds like a lot of mumbo-jumbo, you are right, it is. The Church has rather a lot of mumbo-jumbo like this. My favorite is their claim that the Song of Songs is not werotic poetry at all, it is a dialogue between Jesus and the Church. The Church has symmetric breasts and wonderful creamy thighs. oooooo yeah!
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The Song of Solomon is pretty straightforward about the joy of sex, it needs to be there because some people take chastity further than it needs to go.
If the Mormon Church finds the Post President Romney to be a suitable leader , I will be only peripherally interested, not my business you see.
Isn't it kind of a goofy thing to worry about? Were you worried that President Obama would follow the teachings of his church , that seem to include that the destruction of the USA would be a good thing?
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I am not worried about Romney becoming the Prophet. I simply found the prospect amusing.
President Obama is not going to destroy the country. That is paranoid. Romney I see as likely to monger a war, since that is what Republicans seem to like to do, and he will cause the country to become more unequal. Her knows little about foreign affairs and has a whole assortment of warmongering NeoCons lined up to advise him. Romney obviously favors some Americans over others, those that already hold most of the cards and seek to grab an even bigger share of the wealth of this country for themselves.
Republicans have no answers and their philosophy prevents them from finding any that are likely to work. We would be better off without them.
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That is amusing I guess.
No less than the Democratic tendancy to double think.
Why don't you think that Democrats are prone to monger wars?
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Why don't you think that Democrats are prone to monger wars?
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Because they have not mongered any since Vietnam. duh.
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Why don't you think that Democrats are prone to monger wars?
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Because they have not mongered any since Vietnam. duh.
You mean since Wendsday.
Obama is a war president , Clinton was a war president , even Carter prepared an attack on Iran, (we don't call it a war, but that is just because it turned into an abortion too soon to be a war).
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even Carter prepared an attack on Iran,
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That is, of course, a lie.
Carter only approved of a well=justified invasion to rescue hostages. That was no war.
President Obama inherited two wars from Juniorbush, a warmongering fool.
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even Carter prepared an attack on Iran,
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That is, of course, a lie.
Carter only approved of a well=justified invasion to rescue hostages. That was no war.
President Obama inherited two wars from Juniorbush, a warmongering fool.
Excellent, and Reagan only approved of a well=justified invasion to rescue hostages in Granada. That was no war.
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They sure gave a lot of medals for something that was not a war.
Hostages, bah! The purpose of Reagan's invasion of Grenada was to overthrow the government of Grenada. The "hostages" were simply a bogus pretext.
There were actually hostages in Iran, and they were there because Carter unwisely listened to Kissinger, who deliberately set him up. Then Reagan conspired with the Ayatollah to delay the release until Carter was out of office. Kissinger and Reagan are traitors to this country in my book.
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Oh yes , there were really real Americans under real threat , how they do not qualify as hostages to you I don't get.
Carter tried hard to stage a rescue , and as soon as I learned of it I was broken hearted because I was there and I wanted something like that to happen, but to be effective.
It is a good thing that Reagans invason of Grenada didn't face anything more challenging than Cuban soldiers.
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The "hostages" were unaware that they were hostages, and it wads not necessary to invade Grenada and overthrow the government to "rescue" them. It was done because Reagan was made to look like a fool in Lebanon, and wanted to reclaim his title as Tough Guy. Reagan managed to fool most of the people most of the time. His acting skills were impressive. But there was always a glimpse of the Men behind the curtain, pulling his strings and handing him scripts to those smart enough to see them.
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Are you really smart enough to see things that are not there?
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He does it with Racism, especially Tea Party Racism. Why not "the men behind the curtain"?
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I believe this is true.
Intelligence, even great intellect, does not make one proof against illusion.
There is a lot of evidence around that indicates that Ronald Reagan was extremely smart and in controll of the Whitehouse, but if you treasure the illusion of Reagan the dummy and Bush the sock puppet you can see the ventriloquist moveing his lips , when he isn't even there.
Being smarter can mean that you are only more skilled at fooling yourself.
Lets not be smug , I am saying that we can all be fooled.
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I have seen no evidence to suggest that Reagan was more than of average intelligence, and he certainly was poorly informed as well. His talents were in reading the scrips they handed him. He was VERY good at that.
Kissinger has always been on the Exxon/Rockefeller payroll one way or another,
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I have seen no evidence to suggest that Reagan was more than of average intelligence, and he certainly was poorly informed as well.
I'm starting to think that you aren't even a real person and just post these stupid things to get a rise out of people. Nobody could be this dumb.
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Just in case this isn't a gag and you really are a real jackass liberal, check out Reagan, In his Own hand for all the evidence you need of Reagan's deep knowledge of the issues and his intellingence.
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I have seen no evidence to suggest that Reagan was more than of average intelligence, and he certainly was poorly informed as well. His talents were in reading the scrips they handed him. He was VERY good at that.
Kissinger has always been on the Exxon/Rockefeller payroll one way or another,
He was also good at writing these scripts and speaking off the cuff.
I doubt not at all that you cannot see such evidence.