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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: sirs on November 01, 2012, 10:16:15 PM

Title: An AA Epiphany
Post by: sirs on November 01, 2012, 10:16:15 PM
Not to change the subject, but it just dawned on me why so many hard core white liberals support Affirmative Action.  Deep down, just like Xo has referenced in the past, blacks can't go it alone.  They need help....from white folks, of course. 

So, instead of raising everyone up and challenging folks to do better, we're going to lower standards so lesser folks can get in.  And in the process hurt the the very folks they profess need "the help", with the help of discrimination tactics that would be condemned by all, if were helping a white person over a black.  Wow
Title: Re: An AA Epiphany
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on November 01, 2012, 10:52:05 PM
Blacks need help from some White folks sometimes to combat the prejudice of other White folks in power. The Blacks of Alabama needed the support of LBJ to combat Bull Connors and his attack dogs, for example.

When you talk about "standards", you ignore that there are virtues and perceptions that Blacks have that are not included on or tested by SAT, MCAT, PSAT and other standardized tests.

I don't think that Affirmative Action has always resulted in fairer treatment all the time, but without it, a lot of talented minority people would never have managed to get a degree needed to attain any sort of leadership role.

Title: Re: An AA Epiphany
Post by: Plane on November 02, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
There are virtues exclusive to blacks?

Are there any virtues and perceptions exclusive to Whites that are hard to measure on a standardised test that is ment to gague employability or education level?