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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: sirs on July 01, 2015, 06:48:49 PM
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Once again, another example of if this were happending under a Republican administration, not only would many a politician be looking for a new job in the private sector, but ther'e be calls for prosecution, if not impeachment
Remember the name......Catherine Duval
It seems now, that the gal that was in charge of "releasing" and/or answering all concreassional inquiries for all those Lois Lerner e-mails, that were supposedly lost (RIGHT at the time they were being requested by congress), but appatently not lost, but not turned over, because they're either lost, or there needs to be a determination of any duplicates, etc., etc., ...... well now she's in charge in the release and/or inquiry to any Hillary e-mails, that supposedly were completely deleted from her very own private server, except for the ones that weren't, but also can't be fully released because....well, we just have to take their word for it, that everything is just fine.
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Generally ,the existence of a coverup and the process of stonewalling indicate a strong need for a coverup and a problem worthy of the effort of stonewalling.
We really don't need the fine details , the effort expended in the burial indicate the level of shame.
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Once more sirs, lamenting the lack of perceived symmetry in the universe.
We know how to torture sirs:
Shave off HALF his hair.
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And once again, Dr Deflection attempts to change the subject into some non-existent search for symmetry. Same 'ol, same 'ol
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Most of your stipid rants are complaints about all the unjust flak Republican'ts would get if they did thre same thing as this or that "Liberal".
Reality just does not have enough injustice for you to rant about sirs. You need to constantly invent unreal crap from your tiny, afflicted mind to bitch about.
This is no deflection: the issue is YOU and your unending blather about how indignant the world would be if XYZ were to occur.
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Pointing out rank bias in the MSM isn't some need to see a similar rank bias in the support of Republican endeavors. Nor am I inventing anything, when its merely being pointed out. But cudos on the deflection efforts. Anything and everything to avoid the topic of the same person that ran the Lerner e-mail debacle, now in charge of Hillary's
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Like anyone gives a shit, sirs.
Go to Benghazi.
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We've ALL been trying to go to Benghazi, as it relates to what happened, and the massive cover-up involved. Thanks to the MSM & this administration, in particular the lap dog of a Justice Dept, obstructing & delaying, in every possible way, then has the gall to critique this as having happened "so long ago"
It'll be interesting the level of scrutiny Miss Duval will be placed under, and at what point a smoking gun of a crack develops
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Like anyone actually gives a shit.
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Well of course the willing sycophants don't care. The rest of the electorate just might however
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Very questionable.
Reagan sold weapons to the Ayatollah and then gave the money to the Nicaraguan contras in direct violation of a congressional ban.
That had no effect on people's opinion of Reagan. Itv was too complicated to put on a bumpersticker.
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Which again has absolutely squat to do with anything in this thread. Its not even a rational tangent. Just yet another deflection. *sigh*
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Once more sirs, lamenting the lack of perceived symmetry in the universe.
Well what of it?
Are you happy with belonging to the party that loads the dice?
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The dice SHOULD be loaded against the Republican'ts, because they are warmongering, greedhead assholes.
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The dice SHOULD be loaded against the Republican'ts, because they are warmongering, greedhead assholes.
This is a pretty frank admission.
But how do Democrats avoid accusations of greed?
Not by failing to accumulate lots of money.
Certainly not by being more charitable.
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Ends justifies the means. I rest my case
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What does this mean, "The ends justifies the means".
It is certainly true most of the time.
I want a cheeseburger (the end), so I give the Burger King cashier $1.99 and the special coupon I got in my mailbox(the means).
To date, I have asked again and again in many forums what does this mean and why does the end NOT justify the means?
It depends on what means are used. Certainly the means to getting a cheeseburger is not pointing a gun at the Burger King cashier.
So some, but all means justify the ends. Just saying that the end does NOT justify the means involves a value judgement and good sense, and that is always what the discussion is really about.
So yeah, as a rule, the stipulated end DOES justify the means.
sirs just heard this lambasted on some rightwing web site and is clueless about what it means. I guess he likes the way it sounds sort of profound.
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The ends never seem to arrive.
The means are where we live most of our lives.
A united and peaceful Europe sounds like a very good end, but for Napoleon and Hitler the means to that end were so destructive that the end was ruined by the means.
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Napoleon and Hitler wanted France to be the main country and the others to be tributaries. Peace was not an essential part of the plan of either of them.
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Peace is how these plans get sold.
It might even be one of the goals of the leadership.
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Hitler worshiped war and thought it to be a good thing, like PE class for the nation.
Napoleon wanted to depose the royal heads of Europe because they were against him as a usurper.
Propaganda involving peace was not needed in France or Germany. The people who served in the armies were motivated by nationalism and the idea of national superiority.
Rather like the US claim of "American Exceptionalism"
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With the added qualifier we're not mandating that any other country clone our way of life & government, or face war and gas chambers
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It is still upsetting that there were not enough protesters to prevent the Iraq Wars.
The US is clearly more moral than the Nazis.
I was referring to attitudes of the civilian population, not gas chambers.
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It is still upsetting that there were not enough protesters to prevent the Iraq Wars.
The US is clearly more moral than the Nazis.
Probably because as most agreed, including a majority of your precious Democrats, it was the right thing to do
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The people of this country were propagandized to invade Iraq. Polls sho that a huge number of them thought it should be done to punish "the Ay-rabs" for 9-11.
It was a stupid decision, based on deliberately distorted and false information, and OI was entirely right about hos it should have never happened, which I said at the time.
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Your opinion on this matter has been weighed, measured, and found wanting
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Like you have the ability to judge anything.
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Actually, I have the ability to judge everything, not that that's the point to anything.