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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on March 20, 2008, 09:58:13 PM
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Bill Clinton & Rev. Wright
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Doesn't that kind of blow the notion that Hillary is behind the whole Wright thing out of the water? I don't believe that she would be so stupid as to make it an issue if there was evidence of Bill with Wright.
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gosh who knows
i would never say never about that machine
i think by being quiet she would avoid much flak if a pic of like this came out
i mean it's no where near like she or bill sat there with the race divider for 20 years
so no imo it does not blow the theory
because the Obama connection is badly hurting Obama
i doubt a single pic with Bill will hurt Hillary much
it would still be a great tradeoff for her
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March 20, 2008,
Photograph of Bill Clinton and Rev. Wright Surfaces
By Kate Phillips
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The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and President Bill Clinton at a prayer breakfast at the White House in September 1998.During one of the most difficult periods in the presidency of Bill Clinton, he addressed a group of clerics at an annual prayer breakfast in September 1998 just as the Starr report outlining his dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was about to be published.
Among those in attendance, was the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., who is seen shaking hands with Mr. Clinton in a photograph provided today by the Obama campaign. Mr. Wright?s relationship with Senator Barack Obama, as his longtime pastor, has been the subject of considerable controversy in recent days because of incendiary excerpts of sermons Mr. Wright gave at their church, Trinity United Church of Christ, in Chicago.
In providing the photograph to The New York Times, the Obama campaign appeared to be trying to divert some attention to the Clintons after a week in which Mr. Obama?s relationship with Mr. Wright has left him facing one of the biggest challenges of his campaign. There is nothing in the picture or the note that addresses whether Mr. Clinton had met Mr. Wright prior to the White House meeting or whether he or Mrs. Clinton knew anything about Mr. Wright?s views.
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The invitation to the breakfast.
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The invitation?s envelope.
Asked for a response tonight through email, Howard Wolfson, a top aide to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, wrote, ?Urgent indeed ? a picture ? oooooooo!?
Senator Clinton?s spokesman, Phil Singer, sent along this reply to a request for comment:
In the course of his two terms in office, Bill Clinton met with, corresponded with and took pictures with literally tens of thousands of people.
Mr. Wright was invited to the 1998 prayer breakfast, and in addition, he received a thank-you note from former President Clinton for his expressions of support about six weeks later.
According to an account by James Bennet, former White House correspondent who has since left The Times:
With tears in his eyes, President Clinton told a roomful of clerics this morning that he had sinned, speaking just hours before the world was presented a painstaking account by prosecutors of when, where and how.
Addressing an annual prayer breakfast at the White House, Mr. Clinton drew on the New Testament, the Yom Kippur liturgy and Ernest Hemingway as he made his most abject confession yet of personal failure, while declaring that he would defend and redeem his Presidency.
??I don?t think there is a fancy way to say that I have sinned,'? he admitted softly, saying that after resisting expressions of contrition he had reached ??the rock-bottom truth of where I am.'?
For the first time, Mr. Clinton also asked for forgiveness from Monica S. Lewinsky, on the day that the details of their intimate relationship ? details that he had denied and struggled to suppress ? poured out through the Internet, whose wonders as a tool of communication he has so often extolled.
Mr. Wright is not mentioned in the article. Also visible in the photograph is Vice President Al Gore.
And according to the newly released schedules of Mrs. Clinton by the National Archives of her years as first lady, she was in attendance, too.
Her schedule reads:
?Religion Leaders Breakfast (w/POTUS)? in the East Room from 9-10:30 a.m.
Format:
- The President and First Lady are announced into the East Room and proceed to their tables.
- The Vice President makes remarks and introduces The President.
- The President makes remarks and introduces Dr. Reverend Gerald Mann.
- Dr. Reverend Gerald Mann gives blessing.
- Breakfast is served.
- Following breakfast, The President opens discussion.
- Upon conclusion of the discussion, The President introduces Dr. Reverend James Forbes.
- Dr. Reverend James Forbes gives benediction.
- The President, First Lady, and Vice President depart.
PARTICIPANTS: Approx. 130 guests to attend.
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A thank-you note from Mr. Clinton to Mr. Wright.
The wording of Mr. Clinton?s thank-you note to Mr. Wright, dated Oct. 28, 1998:
Dear Pastor Wright:
Thank you so much for your kind message.
I am touched by your prayers and by the many expressions of encouragement and support I have received from friends across our country.
You have my best wishes.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
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Pretty weak effort by Obama's campaign
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There hasn't been a president in history that hasn't written nice notes to preachers.
Wright does not want to divide the races, he simply acknowledges that (a) this is a country in which White folks make the rules and the laws, (b) often this is a disadvantage for Black folk, most of whose ancestors were brought here against their will, and (c) the White folk in charge should not ignore the Black folk as they frequently do.
Like most preachers, he says this in an emphatic, Bible-thumping way that is typical of most Southern preachers of his sort, and that annoys White people who simply do not understand because of (c) see above.
The guy's name is Jeremiah. What do you expect from a Jeremiah, anyway?
Obama has already disavowed the sillier of Wright's statements, and it's pretty obvious that he is not going to be running the country at Obama's side if the latter is elected, anymore than Cindy McCain is going to make everyone drink a Budweiser for breakfast.
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What do you expect from a Jeremiah, anyway?
That he be a bullfrog, and a pretty good friend of mine.
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There is that connection between bullfrogs and Budweiser. Perhaps something bipartisan would be a good idea.