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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on March 21, 2010, 02:34:24 AM

Title: Bi-partizen
Post by: Plane on March 21, 2010, 02:34:24 AM
Ayone notice that support for the Health care reform bill,..., as it is , is entirely a Democratic party , party.

The opposition is mostly Republican , but has Democrats involved and is therefore bi-partizen.

How much of a virtue is bi-partizenship?
Title: Re: Bi-partizen
Post by: sirs on March 21, 2010, 02:41:31 AM
I always say just flip it......pretend this was a purely partisan GOP unconstitutional power grab.  Boy the fit would be hitting the shan, on a daily basis.  But....according to Pelosi, this is a "triumph for the American people"  Too bad she apparently doesn't even know what's in the bill
Title: Re: Bi-partizen
Post by: Plane on March 21, 2010, 11:01:09 AM
I always say just flip it......pretend this was a purely partisan GOP unconstitutional power grab.  Boy the fit would be hitting the shan, on a daily basis.  But....according to Pelosi, this is a "triumph for the American people"  Too bad she apparently doesn't even know what's in the bill


   The lawmakeing process is not accidentally advesarial, only rarely is there a major legislation with no opponents. We need it to be this way in order that bills get the carefull construction and detailed examination that we need them to have, political benefit is the pay a legislator gets for fighting this good fight.


I am not happy with this bill, it is huge and poorly pasted together Frankenstien looks pretty hansome in comparison.

I think that they want a new entitlement and a new admistering agency for this entitlement , such that they are willing to make this clunky monster law and trim it into better shape with later lawmakeing.

I am afraid that this is not really going to work , there is a sort of enthropy that demands that laws grow more not less complex, that government agencys grow larger and more powerfull not sleeker and more effecient.
Title: Re: Bi-partizen
Post by: sirs on April 06, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
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Title: Re: Bi-partizen
Post by: Plane on April 06, 2010, 11:18:01 PM
Is "'Obamacare "a term to go down in History as "Hooverville" has?
Title: Re: Bi-partizen
Post by: sirs on April 06, 2010, 11:20:06 PM
Watch and see