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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Kramer on April 19, 2010, 10:25:43 PM
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE63I44Z20100419?sp=true (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE63I44Z20100419?sp=true)
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The prospect of a "hung parliament" has worried some investors, who fear it will hamper decision-making and make it harder for the new government to take steps to reduce Britain's record budget deficit.
In the US when divided government causes "gridlock" businesses rejoice.
The short route to less government.
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The prospect of a "hung parliament" has worried some investors, who fear it will hamper decision-making and make it harder for the new government to take steps to reduce Britain's record budget deficit.
In the US when divided government causes "gridlock" businesses rejoice.
The short route to less government.
I was thinking long the lines of a third party causing problems like Ross Perot did in 1992.
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It looks like Charlie Crist, the popular governor of FL, will run for the senate as an INDEPENDENT, giving reactionary Cuban prettyboy Marco Rubio a well-deserved whipping. Or perhaps giving us a second Democratic senator, Kendrick Meek.
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The Lib Dems look like another re-play of the Obama story - - new kid on the block with an attractive young wife - - http://tinyurl.com/y7qd42a (http://tinyurl.com/y7qd42a) - - promises change, new directions, new pathways etc. - - to an electorate thoroughly fed up with the bullshit of the two existing parties, and particularly the bullshit of a party that talks peace and wages war, gonna clean out the stables, etc.
Same old bullshit, same old bait-and-switch. Nothing will change with these two yuppies any more than with Barack and Michelle.
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Same old bullshit, same old bait-and-switch. Nothing will change with these two yuppies any more than with Barack and Michelle.
What is the change you think we want?
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It looks like Charlie Crist, the popular governor of FL, will run for the senate as an INDEPENDENT, giving reactionary Cuban prettyboy Marco Rubio a well-deserved whipping. Or perhaps giving us a second Democratic senator, Kendrick Meek.
Crist is toast. He vetoed the Teacher Merit Pay Act. Basically he is now a slave to the education unions.
His only option is to run as an independent. No way he would win the GOP Primary trailing as badly as he is.
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Most people did not favor the stupid Education Act, according to pools in the Miami and Tampa newspapers. It would end raises based on advanced degrees, and would reward only some undefined percentage of teachers whose students did better on undefined competency exams. Florida is 50th in the per capita spent per student. The SB6 education bill was passed only by Republicans. It would have destroyed the postgraduate programs in education in every college and university in the state.
If the legislature was hard up for money, they could vote to reward 10% of the teachers, or maybe just 5%. The Republicans in our legislature are morons and understand nothing of education.
I agree that Rubio would win the primary: only the most fanatic of the rightwingers would bother to turn out to vote, and they would elect Prettyboy Marco, who is a prime quality, grade-A imbecile. So Crist needs to become an independent. He could win, or at least keep that asshole Rubio out of the Senate.
Someone who has rescued education from morons is far superior to a prettyboy Cuban fanatic owned by real estate developers.
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It would have destroyed the postgraduate programs in education in every college and university in the state.
And since when is the teaching of elementary students linked to protecting the tenure of post graduate professors in the states colleges and universities.
And if the advanced degrees don't have a relationship to performance why are they currently rewarded?
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I do not think that anyone has proven that postgraduate degrees do NOT improve the performance of teachers. If teachers take courses in methodology, I am pretty sure that such courses would make a difference. Graduate schools are surely not going to be able to improve performance of teachers if they have no students.
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uhm
this is all under the assumption these teachers want to stay .
can anybody show any data we have a surplus teachers?
at this very moment I don`t have that much of a imppression teacher(except california) retention is ever a factor.
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I was thinking long the lines of a third party causing problems like Ross Perot did in 1992.
Why don't we want that to happen?
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as crazy as that midget seems , I like that nut.
I`d vote for him again.
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I was thinking long the lines of a third party causing problems like Ross Perot did in 1992.
Why don't we want that to happen?
because clinton elected when he shouldn't have.
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do not think that anyone has proven that postgraduate degrees do NOT improve the performance of teachers.
Then what do these teachers have to worry about?
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<<I agree that Rubio would win the primary: only the most fanatic of the rightwingers would bother to turn out to vote, and they would elect Prettyboy Marco, who is a prime quality, grade-A imbecile. So Crist needs to become an independent. He could win, or at least keep that asshole Rubio out of the Senate.>>
Looks like Rubio has his own problems now. Some Higher Force may be keeping him out of the Senate, regardless of what happens to Crist.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003082-503544.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003082-503544.html)
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because clinton elected when he shouldn't have.
It's not Ross Perot's fault the Republican Party did such a lousy job of garnering votes. Seems to me, we need another Ross Perot/third party run. Just keeping Democrats out of the White House is not a good enough reason to prevent one because the Republicans are not much better than the Democrats.
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<<I agree that Rubio would win the primary: only the most fanatic of the rightwingers would bother to turn out to vote, and they would elect Prettyboy Marco, who is a prime quality, grade-A imbecile. So Crist needs to become an independent. He could win, or at least keep that asshole Rubio out of the Senate.>>
Looks like Rubio has his own problems now. Some Higher Force may be keeping him out of the Senate, regardless of what happens to Crist.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003082-503544.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20003082-503544.html)
They IRS are tools'
I'm truly concerned about your racist attitude towards Rubio though.
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Then what do these teachers have to worry about?
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Suppose the Board assigns you to a school where you are trying to teach English composition to a class composed of recently arrived Haitians who can barely read Creole. Every semester, 10 of the 30 students in your class are replaced by more Haitians, as students drop out and transfer. So your class shows zero improvement from one year to the next, and the legislature gives you no raise at all, despite a 10% rise in the cost of living. You have a MA degree, and the state will not pay extra for you to take any more classes. So what do you do?
You move to another state or another part of the state where you have some chance of keeping up with the cost of living, of course.
In Florida, there is no permanent certification: you can have a PhD in your major field and an MA in Education, and the state STILL requires you to take three semester hours per year to retain your certificate. The courses that teachers take tend to be rather easy things, taught at bargain rates by other teachers in the system hired as adjuncts by the various state and private colleges. Or they are irrelevant courses, that could not help teachers do much of anything other than teach them how to teach the same irrelevant course.
I enrolled in a program to be a computer ed specialist at Barry University, and took a course in Pascal, taught by a teacher who was unable to actually complete her own simple assignments. By simple, I do not mean that they were easy to do, but that they did nothing useful. The software used in the compiler part of the program was capable of generating 100 errors due to a misplaced semicolon, with no indication as to the cause of the error.
She was lucky that there was always one student who seemed to know how to do these. Of course, no one uses Pascal for writing educational software, not were there any courses taught that used Pascal for any purpose. They decided to require it for the Specialist's degree simply because the head of the Dept. had taken it way back in the days of hulking mainframes of 8-bit computers. I dropped out of the program when I realized that only the public schools would recognize this degree as useful for anything, and I had had enough of the public system.
There are problems with the system, but the stupid Republican Bill would solve none of them. Mostly, it would allow the legislature to give raises to only a small number of teachers and to screw the majority.
According to a poll in the Herald, 76% want Crist to run for the Senate as an independent.
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Well, Pascal was designed as a teaching language, to teach structured programming and data structures. The worth is not in the language itself, but in the mindset that it creates in the student.
The techniques are portable to many other languages - people who know Pascal tend to write better (and safer) C code, for example.