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Title: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 23, 2010, 11:22:05 PM
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Former VP Al Gore Accused of
Sexual Assault While Visiting Portland


Jun 23rd, 2010

The Portlander, by Staff

The Portland Police Bureau has today released a statement regarding allegations of sexual assault by former Vice President Al Gore while in Portland. Vice President Gore has also been in the news recently for the unexpected divorce from his wife of 40 years, Tipper Gore.

Below is the full text of the PPB press release:

A national tabloid magazine has published a story discussing allegations made by a Portland woman against former Vice President Al Gore. The Portland Police Bureau does not generally disclose information regarding sex crimes, as they are deemed confidential. However, because of the high-profile nature of this case and the fact that the woman involved provided reports to a media outlet, we will provide the following information:

In December 2006, a local attorney contacted the Portland Police Bureau and said he had a client that wanted to report an unwanted sexual contact by Mr. Gore. This allegation stemmed from an incident on October 24, 2006, when the woman involved, a Licensed Massage Therapist, was called to a local hotel to provide a massage to Mr. Gore.

After repeated attempts by Portland Police Detectives to interview the woman involved, the Police Bureau was told by her attorney in January 2007, that they were pursuing civil litigation and declined the assistance of the Portland Police Bureau's Detective Division. A special report was written and the case was exceptionally cleared, a standard procedure when the person involved declines to talk to police. The District Attorney's Office was consulted during this time.

On January 6, 2009, the woman involved came to the Detective Division and explained that she would like to give a statement. On January 8, 2009, a Detective and a victim advocate assigned to the Sexual Assault Detail met with the woman. The woman read from a prepared statement and detailed the events of October 24, 2006. She reported that she was repeatedly subjected to unwanted sexual touching while in his presence.

The woman reported that she still had clothes that she had worn during the encounter. But due to the description she gave of the incident, detectives did not collect the clothes as evidence because they did not feel there was any evidentiary value to the clothing.

After interviewing the woman, the Police Bureau provided additional services per the victim advocate program. The case was not investigated any further because detectives concluded there was insufficient evidence to support the allegations.

In June 2010, the woman involved contacted Detectives and asked for a copy of her statement, which she was given. She then asked if she could edit her statement and was told she could provide detectives with additional clarifications that would be added to her original report. She also advised that she was going to take the case to the media.

The District Attorney's Office has a copy of the reports. At this point, the Police Bureau does not consider this an ongoing investigation unless new evidence is received in this case. The Police Bureau is releasing the redacted reports concurrent with this news release. In 2007, the Police Bureau released the initial special report regarding the incident after it received a public records request by the Portland Tribune.

http://theportlander.com/2010/06/23/former-vp-al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-while-visiting-portland/ (http://theportlander.com/2010/06/23/former-vp-al-gore-accused-of-sexual-assault-while-visiting-portland/)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Michael Tee on June 23, 2010, 11:47:31 PM
BFD
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Kramer on June 23, 2010, 11:48:43 PM
BFD

it might be a bfd if it was your hole he violated.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 24, 2010, 12:21:31 AM
BFD

Michael sexual assault is a big deal.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 24, 2010, 02:19:29 PM
i guess this may play into Tipper and Al Gore's marriage having a global meltdown
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Michael Tee on June 24, 2010, 02:37:02 PM
At the MOST he groped some tramp who goes around giving massages to men in their hotel rooms.  And even THAT looks like a put-up job.  The woman seems to have told some two-bit shyster that she "massaged" Al Gore, and the shyster's eyes lit up with dollar signs.  The woman NEVER made first contact with the local police - - the shyster instead called them to say he had a client who "wanted to" report (but hadn't.)  She then dodged all attempts made by local police to contact her.  Instead, after they'd given up hope of prosecuting, she read to them from a "prepared statement" - - prepared by whom?  We don't know, but probably the shyster.

Evidence of the woman's total disinterest in the matter continues to pile up.

She obviously does not consider this to be a BFD and neither do I.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: sirs on June 24, 2010, 02:50:35 PM
but boy, oh boy, if this had been Bush, or McCain, or even Palin......WOW......I can't even imagine the decibel levels that would be coming from the likes of the left & MSM, or how hard Tee and company would be pounding their keyboards in condemnation
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 24, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
What is important is whether her account is true or not.

If it is the Al Gore has self control issues.

If she can prove she was called to give the massage, and she has proof of payment, then at the minimum she has proof the encounter happened.

And because she performs her services at her customers abode, does not diminish the legitimacy of her services nor should it reflect badly on her character. Thousands of massage therapists do that. So do physical therapists and visiting nurses. Are they all sluts in your mind?



Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: sirs on June 24, 2010, 03:06:49 PM
Good points, Bt.  I had a massage therapist over here at our house on nearly a monthly basis, working mostly with my wife, though on occasion, I'd also get a massage.  We would get a discount, by providing our own portable massage table, which my wife purchased for me, several years prior.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Michael Tee on June 24, 2010, 03:11:36 PM
<<And because she performs her services at her customers abode, does not diminish the legitimacy of her services nor should it reflect badly on her character. Thousands of massage therapists do that. So do physical therapists and visiting nurses. Are they all sluts in your mind?>>

Even a slut has a right not to be assaulted.  The point was that she obviously did not consider it to be a BFD and neither did I.  And yeah, when the "abode" is a hotel room it's a pretty good indication to me what she was there for.  Not 100 times out of 100, but well over 90.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 24, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
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The point was that she obviously did not consider it to be a BFD and neither did I.

The point was she knew that she couldn't prove he did what he allegedly did because there was no "blue dress" but it bothered her enough to have her attorney make sure it was on record.

Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 24, 2010, 03:25:58 PM
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The point was that she obviously did not consider it to be a BFD and neither did I.

because there was no "blue dress"

BT maybe there was "blue dress"....look at this quote:

"sat down with police and detailing a sordid story of a bizarre
encounter with Gore during which he giggled with delight as
she resisted him as he groped, fondled, and pounced on her
before pouncing on her in an alleged effort to gain sexual
satisfaction. Although he apparently did not manage to
have intercourse with her, he allegedly released fluid
onto her clothing, a pair of black pants that the woman
has preserved without cleaning since the incident"


http://www.helium.com/items/1871540-1-million-leaks-story-of-al-gore-sex-frenzy-stained-clothing (http://www.helium.com/items/1871540-1-million-leaks-story-of-al-gore-sex-frenzy-stained-clothing)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 24, 2010, 05:41:57 PM
Poor Al

Hoisted by his own petard.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 24, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
Poor Al ...Hoisted by his own petard.

That darn DNA that XO talks so much about!
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Kramer on June 24, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
rumor has it most of the Global Warmers are premature ejaculators.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 24, 2010, 07:32:46 PM
looks like they decided to not bring charges...
so the lady may have to sue him in civil court

i wonder if a civil court could force him to submit DNA
so they could test her pants to see if "the mess" is his?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008704-504083.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20008704-504083.html)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: kimba1 on June 25, 2010, 02:15:15 PM
sirs
I totally understand the need for massages, thiers a place I goes 2 block from my house that charge $25 for foot massage(neck & body free) I see people tipping $40 . In these stress filled time these place are cleaning up big time and totally worth it.

as a pure money perspective this would be it, if you not afriad of hard work
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Stray Pup on June 25, 2010, 02:27:59 PM
A national tabloid magazine

Was that story next to the one about the aliens in the Washington Monument?  Or about the latest celebrity pregnancy?

[Edit:  Don't mean to sound snide here, but it says tabloid.  Do we know exactly what magazine or is there more than one source?]

I mean if this really did happen, maybe old Gore is just desperate for attention. :P

Let's face it, the guy has seen better days.  Every politician seems to be having a race to see who can go crazy first and Gore was never far from the finish line...
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 25, 2010, 02:39:24 PM
The tabloid was the National Enquirer. They are the ones who broke the story about John Edwards love child.

Other publications were aware of the story but chose not to run it.

Which is the same as what happened with Edwards.

Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Stray Pup on June 25, 2010, 02:57:28 PM
The tabloid was the National Enquirer. They are the ones who broke the story about John Edwards love child.

Other publications were aware of the story but chose not to run it.

Which is the same as what happened with Edwards.


Really?  That's interesting. 

Why not though?  I mean we have to hear about every other minor disgrace from every celebrity under the sun (that Val Kilmer discussion comes to mind).  And it's not like Gore is powerful enough any more to force through some kind of gag order or cover up. 
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: kimba1 on June 25, 2010, 03:22:57 PM
maybe it`s just not that interesting.

I never heard of the edwards scandal and in the supermarket if I saw it on the headline I wouldn`t give it a thought.

I`m not saying gore is the samething to me but is general terms gore might have the same reaction.

he separation hardly got a response from me .

remember he was VP , not the most notable position in politics.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 25, 2010, 03:28:20 PM
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Why not though?

Because an official complaint was never filed. The Portland paper thought there was enough smoke to ask for a comment from Gore Headquarter.

The Kilmer case is different. And it differs in that the government was wrongly using its power to deny permits, not based on the request, but because of comments made by the requestor.

One of the best ways to keep out of trouble in local govt is to concentrate on what-ville instead of worrying about who-ville.



Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 25, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
Was that story next to the one about the aliens in the Washington Monument?  Or about the latest celebrity pregnancy?
Maybe it was right next to the story about John Edwards mistress and love child
that was in the National Enquirer and everybody dismissed like you seem to be doing...
"ah that cant be true....look at the source".

(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/national-enquirer-john-edwards-love-child-scandal-picture2.jpg)
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Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Stray Pup on June 25, 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Was that story next to the one about the aliens in the Washington Monument?  Or about the latest celebrity pregnancy?
Maybe it was right next to the story about John Edwards mistress and love child
that was in the National Enquirer and everybody dismissed like you seem to be doing...
"ah that cant be true....look at the source".

(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/national-enquirer-john-edwards-love-child-scandal-picture2.jpg)
(http://sensico.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/58768.jpg)

As a general rule, yes, I tend to carefully scrutinize the source of anything I hear.  That notwithstanding everybody gets it right once in a while.  I don't deny that these events happened, I'm simply saying I don't know enough about it to make an informed called either way and that I do tend to treat the National Enquirer with the same regard I treat a poorly written fiction novel.  Maybe that's a mistake, but I'll take my chances not getting the cutting edge.

They're still better than that one black-and-white one... i think it's called the Globe or something.  If they're telling the truth then there are an additional 800 commandments 2500 Nostradamus predictions and 32,000 aliens.  :D
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 25, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
true Pup....

and I have a feeling when it's a conservative it doesn't
have to be the National Enquirer breaking the story.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Stray Pup on June 25, 2010, 06:20:15 PM
true Pup....

and I have a feeling when it's a conservative it doesn't
have to be the National Enquirer breaking the story.

I'm not quite as conservative as my father before me (random star wars flashback).

I am fully aware that both parties have extremists who lie and alter the truth in anyway they can.  I lean traditionally towards the values of Republicans, true, but not unfalteringly and unquestioningly. 

I've been raised to question everything I hear, not just what's coming out of one party.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: sirs on June 25, 2010, 07:24:38 PM
I've been raised to question everything I hear, not just what's coming out of one party.

...or 1 parent?    *evil snicker*
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Stray Pup on June 25, 2010, 07:26:16 PM
I've been raised to question everything I hear, not just what's coming out of one party.

...or 1 parent?    *evil snicker*

Yeah.  Stray Pooch still thinks he's my biological father. ;)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: sirs on June 25, 2010, 07:28:01 PM
D'OH
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 26, 2010, 11:27:14 AM
Al Gore victim audio statement:

http://www.nypost.com/video/?vxSiteId=0db7b365-a288-4708-857b-8bdb545cbd0f&vxChannel=NY%20Post&vxClipId=1458_977001&vxBitrate=300 (http://www.nypost.com/video/?vxSiteId=0db7b365-a288-4708-857b-8bdb545cbd0f&vxChannel=NY%20Post&vxClipId=1458_977001&vxBitrate=300)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Kramer on June 26, 2010, 03:30:13 PM
sounds very legit to me 100%.
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: BT on June 26, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
Looks like the story has gone international:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJWxpdYJ3Oc#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJWxpdYJ3Oc#ws)
Title: Re: Al Gore Accused of Sexual Assault!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on June 27, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
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Former VP Al Gore copes with polluted image as divorce
and alleged scandal makes headlines


BY Larry Mcshane -DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Sunday, June 27th 2010

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To many, including one licensed massage therapist in Oregon, Nobel Prize winner Al Gore was
"Mr. Smiley Global Warming Concern" - a pure-of-heart environmental hero.

Now the globe-trotting, do-gooding Gore is catching a lot of heat - with none of it related to global warming.
Gore is dealing with some inconvenient truths - and a few ugly rumors - since the end of his marriage was
followed by suggestions of sexual scandal.

The high-profile activist typically profiled in magazines like The New Yorker was suddenly splashed across
the front page of The National Enquirer.

"AL GORE SEX ATTACK!" howled the Enquirer's front page, referring to a purported 2006 incident with the
masseuse in an Oregon hotel suite.

But first came the end of his personal "Love Story," a 40-year union with high school sweetheart Tipper.
The demise of their marriage sent shock waves through the couple's friends and supporters early this month -
and provided fodder for late-night comedians.

"Everybody is talking about it; everyone's blogging about this," joked NBC's Jimmy Fallon.
"I bet this is the one week where Al Gore wishes he didn't invent the Internet."


The bombshell was followed by word that daughter Karenna's 13-year marriage was on the rocks. Her sister,
Kristin, had filed for divorce 13 months earlier, ending her four-year marriage.
Adding to the connubial carnage, word leaked last week of a Portland, Ore., masseuse's rambling complaint
accusing Gore of "unwanted sexual contact" nearly four years ago.

The red-headed masseuse - who said she voted for Gore in the 2000 presidential race - detailed his alleged
transformation from statesman to "crazed sex poodle" during a late-night massage in his hotel suite.
"He had a dramatic display of violent temper as well as extreme dictatorial commanding attitude besides
his Mr. Smiley Global Warming Concern persona," the woman says in a 67-page transcript of her interview with police.
Gore recalls getting the massage, a pal told The Washington Post, but he doesn't remember any incident.
In fact, the ex-veep believes he left on good terms with the masseuse.

Cops found a lack of evidence to back up her account. But the timing of the complaint's release, coming on
the heels of the Gores' marital meltdown, was brutal.

The couple's "mutual and mutually supportive" split had already prompted a spate of reports linking the ex-vice
president to Laurie David, the former wife of "Seinfeld" co-creator Larry David.

Laurie David, who co-produced the Oscar-winning Gore documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," quickly denied
the rumors. "It's a total fabrication," she told The Huffington Post. "I adore both Al and Tipper."
Gore, as he has through much of the messy stretch, declined to comment and kept a low public profile.
The massage episode indirectly illustrated the twists in Gore's personal life.

When the Portland Tribune considered running a story in 2007 about the allegation, Gore's lawyers fired off a
letter declaring the one-time Tennessee senator's marital credentials were impeccable. "You ... are aware that
everyone who knows Al and Tipper Gore well can and does attest to the integrity of their 37-year marriage and
to his honorable character," the letter said.

Not as much lately.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/27/2010-06-27_al_gores_polluted_image_former_vp_copes_with_divorces_and_alleged_scandal.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/27/2010-06-27_al_gores_polluted_image_former_vp_copes_with_divorces_and_alleged_scandal.html)