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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Brassmask on December 06, 2010, 03:06:43 PM
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Automatic Ham Boning Robot - Mayekawa HAMDAS-R : DigInfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrVFcqgHSLQ#ws)
Until now, boning 500 hams per hour required 20 people. But using HAMDAS-R, only 10 people are needed [GW's note: with the other 10 offered to Skynet in sacrifice]. The robot's consistent processing capability also makes production planning easier. From now on, Mayekawa intends to market HAMDAS-R worldwide, primarily in Europe and Japan.
"Thinking about irregularly shaped, soft items, most kinds of food come into this category, including fish and vegetables. We'd like to build up our know-how regarding how to automate their processing, so we can construct a general-purpose system for handling irregularly shaped, soft items."
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Yes. (http://singularityhub.com/2010/12/04/japans-robot-picks-only-the-ripest-strawberries-video/)
Strawberry harvesting robot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uef6ayK8ilY#)
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The Edwin Hawkins Singers - Oh Happy Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQXQKflJNA#)
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How about pull a child (http://www.dump.com/2010/12/03/swarm-bots-pulling-a-child-video/). A little creepy, but now doable
Good to seeyas, Brass 8)
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Good to see robotics is making so much progress.
If the goal is to build up a huge underclass with nothing to do but breed this is one fine way to go about it.
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http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v303/n6/full/scientificamerican1210-42.html (http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v303/n6/full/scientificamerican1210-42.html)
One of the ideas discussed this month in Sci am mag is a foraging robot.
It needs to be something like a mechanical cow, it will wander the woods and feilds grazeing on biomass , deadwood , grass whatever. This it will burn in an external combustion engine and charge up its batterys.
Whenever its batterys are fully charged it returns to camp and delivers its charge to the use of the camp, either being the wall socket itself or chargeing stationary batterys.
I wonder if these mechanical cows will need mechanical cowboys?
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I wonder if these mechanical cows will need mechanical cowboys?
They would be useless if they did. They would be programmed to do their thing and cowboys would be unnecessary.
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I wonder if these mechanical cows will need mechanical cowboys?
They would be useless if they did. They would be programmed to do their thing and cowboys would be unnecessary.
Their purpose is based on organic creatures , a heard of robots could graze rough biomass and produce energy from scattered trash and deadwood , if they had a central unit that was strong AI the individual units of the heard could be simpler.
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That huge underclass with nothing to do could then enjoy a nationalized education system designed to create a population of educated folks who could spend hours and hours a day thinking of new ways to make life better for everyone on the planet rather than the underclass of folk who clean toilets and pick fruit just to make a few dollars a day to buy food and heat to remain alive so they can go back and clean toilets and pick fruit.
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That huge underclass with nothing to do could then enjoy a nationalized education system designed to create a population of educated folks who could spend hours and hours a day thinking of new ways to make life better for everyone on the planet rather than the underclass of folk who clean toilets and pick fruit just to make a few dollars a day to buy food and heat to remain alive so they can go back and clean toilets and pick fruit.
Why would that happen?
Wouldn't thier labor becoming superflouous be tragic for them?
Who would be the maker of the robots? Who would be the owner of the robots?
I don't see someone with a low paid menial job buying his own replacement.
Are maids buying stacks of roombas?
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That huge underclass with nothing to do could then enjoy a nationalized education system designed to create a population of educated folks who could spend hours and hours a day thinking of new ways to make life better for everyone on the planet rather than the underclass of folk who clean toilets and pick fruit just to make a few dollars a day to buy food and heat to remain alive so they can go back and clean toilets and pick fruit.
We already have a nationalized education system. The likely candidates who would be replaced by these robots are the same folks who didn't take advantage of the opportunities presented by the free k-12 system.
But produce picking robots could help solve the illegal immigration problem.
So there is that.
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If we could do away with all physical labor by using robots, then we would have to do something to provide some sort of occupation for all the people who once did that sort of work, or we would have a cultural breakdown and perhaps a revolution.
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Zager And Evans - In The Year 2525 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic#)
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If we could do away with all physical labor by using robots, then we would have to do something to provide some sort of occupation for all the people who once did that sort of work, or we would have a cultural breakdown and perhaps a revolution.
You ever heard of Soylent Green?
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yummy.
great food!
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maybe certain labors should not be replaced by machines.
the farming population has been shrinking anyway , so machine replacements would be fairly doable.
I think fishing should not be since this is a occupation which also has wealthy people pay large amount money to do.
what do you guys think of coal miner being replaced by machines?
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Coal mining would be difficult to accomplish with robots, but they are useing a lot of power tools.
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uhm
I talked to a solor energy lawyer and he`s very certain that human labor will be removed in coal mining.
it does make abit of sense for companies to get rid of the miners.
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Hopefully, coal mining will cease to exist before all the coal is burned. There is much harm in mining and burning coal, and even well-organized nuclear energy is vastly superior as an energy source.
In the 1960's there were still a few "gyppo" mines left around Buckhannon, WV, where I lived, where family groups and other non-union tiny companies still used only the traditional equipment to pull out a few tons a day. No one does this anymore, I hear.
The machines they use today are far more efficient and one operator can do the work that it took dozens to do in the 1940's.
But still, too many people die in mines,and the land is ruined for generations, if not forever, by mountaintop removal.
Coal mining will go the way of whaling, if we are lucky.
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I wish that too
I`ve only been to leesburg once and what i saw is a very beautiful place.but what I understand is coal is extremely big part of that state and chances of any altenatives being introduced will be very hard
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Coal is too expensive to use when you calculate the damage to the miners, the land and the atmosphere. There is no such thing as "clean coal" that could be economically competitive with natural gas, which the US has in abundance.
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I just talked to that lawyer and he explained it not possible to extract a large percent of that coal without the tunnels falling apart. so it`s not exactly straight forward process
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Coal is too expensive to use when you calculate the damage to the miners, the land and the atmosphere. There is no such thing as "clean coal" that could be economically competitive with natural gas, which the US has in abundance.
There you go again
well first off the miners like the work and it's optional whether they mine or not
Secondly if not for coal you would not be here today. Our nation became a Super Power out of coal.
Third, assholes like Jane Fonda screwed up the Nuclear Power in this country and you and Jane's minds think alike.
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Yeah, right: Jane Fonda wrecked nuclear power. Three Mile Island, Hansford Works and insurance companies refusing to write liability insurance had nothing to do with it.
You are a moron. con cascabeles.
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I love coming back here because Kramer always reminds what there is to hate about this country. :D
It also makes me realize what a dumbass Obama is for wasting two years trying to reason with the right. They simply know what they know and don't bother with things like facts.
Obama should have squashed them like cockroaches at a picnic and moved the country forward like El Capitan LBJ did.
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good seeing you
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Good to see you again, Brassmask.
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That huge underclass with nothing to do could then enjoy a nationalized education system designed to create a population of educated folks who could spend hours and hours a day thinking of new ways to make life better for everyone on the planet rather than the underclass of folk who clean toilets and pick fruit just to make a few dollars a day to buy food and heat to remain alive so they can go back and clean toilets and pick fruit.
This seem like exactly the opposite of what I would expect.
How is "the underclass" going to come into possession of many robots?
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I do believe in a national education but I do not believe it will develope a society of scholars. People are by nature lazy(or better term minimulist)and education is hardwork. unlike free healthcare people are not gonna signup in great amount for it. if you think about it the kids who goto public school are not exactly voluntary.
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My experience is that a majority of students are far more interested in passing the class and getting a degree to actually learning anything useful. But there are students that are truly intellectually curious, who are actually seeking solutions to problems that are beyond their desires to earn more money. There are also students who are inspired by their college classes and become intellectually curious and learn to enjoy a quest for solutions.
And those are the people that this country actually desperately needs. They should be given all the education that can possibly benefit them.
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true,
but if you think about it. a student has a much better chance at being a doctor or lawyer than a star athlete. but alot of students will think athletics is route to go.
academics is still not thought of as a option.
according the matt lesko college grants and scholarship are still greatly under ultilized.
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I am not sure that it is wise to subsidize the output of lawyers, as they produce nothing.
Doctors, of course. We need doctors, as all are mortal and prone to disease and accidents.
Professional athletes do not really have all that great a career on average. The life expectancy of an NFL player is around 55. They get hit in the head a lot. Baseball and basketball players live longer. I am not sure about hockey players.
It is rather ironic that baseball players are not required to have anything to do with college. Most of the Dominican players do not graduate with more than an 8th grade education: they give them some bogus GED, I think.Hockey pros are not normally college students either, as I understand it.
And of course, most of them do not graduate from college with useful degrees, and in addition getting your skull bashed around every week is not conducive to success at any career.
A doctor can practice medicine until he is 65 or 70. A pro jock is extremely lucky to last until he is 40.
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just a guess
it could be that tv shows athlete with rapper like lifestyles and notmuch on doctors.
the show kendra is about a playboy model married to a athlete.
didn`t michael vick get a show.
the show with doctor tend to be in unrelateable formats
very few show has entertaining academic formats.
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very few show has entertaining academic formats.
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The only one I can think of that was really good was The Paper Chase, about Yale Law School. It had a great cast. The old series Room 222 was among the best academic shows I recall. But the plot was rarely based on anything academic.
Doctor shows are a problem because most of the public doesn't know enough about medicine to relate. "House" is the best medical show by far in my book. It is a show that could become an obsession for a true hypochondriac.
People like to say that everyone's life would be a good novel, but that is really not true: most people's lives are too complicated for others to relate to, and most people's lives do not build up to a stirring climax, either.
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I love house, It has the best and very inspirng origin story. be the best at anyone thing and you can get away with being the biggest a$$h0le.
that speaks to me
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"House" is very close to be a medical version of Sherlock Holmes, with a supporting cast of attending Watsons.
Conventional medical knowledge, that never seems to work in diagnosing any of the patients, would be the figurative Inspector LeStrade, of Scotland Yard, who also never got the right man or the right motive.