How do you fear something currently not possible?
XO my purpose in this thread was not to discuss the
pros and cons of those specific issues...you are a real
pro at changing the subject....but first before we move
on in your rush to different subjects....let me see what
SIRS point is in asking his question which is the topic
of this thread.
Not 1 day after he gives that speech, Obama budget proposes broader unemployment taxes .
That's not a bad idea.
That's not a bad idea.
It's not?
I see it as another disgraceful tax on soccer Moms and working people.
Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people.
All so we can keep extending payments to people sitting at home?
I am not even completely sure I support any unemployment benefits
Business already pays for 26 weeks.... But some states Cal, Mich, NY, PA,
and ILL run off business & then want borrow billions to pay people sitting at home
At the very max it should last 8 weeks....bunch a bullshit people sitting for 99 weeks!
The gvt keeps extending the benefits for the lazy asses
Now they are outta money and now it's
"Ooooops whattta we do...we were Santa Claus now wees outta money"
Bingo...."Lets go rob the producers some more so we can be Santa again"!
So what is the federal backstop fund for?
Few states were prepared for such widespread and lasting unemployment, leading them to exhaust their funds. To make up revenue, some 41 states have already boosted their unemployment insurance tax. Even as states have raised their taxes on employers, they haven?t been able to keep up with demand for unemployment benefits. That?s where the federal fund comes into play. States can borrow from the fund in order to continue paying jobless benefits. As of early February, some 30 states borrowed $42.4 billion from the federal government to pay unemployment insurance.
What happens if states don?t pay the funds back fast enough?
Companies in some states are already paying higher federal unemployment insurance taxes because their states have been unable to pay back the federal loans in a timely manner. The longer it takes to pay back the loan, the higher the tax rate on companies goes. So instead of an 0.8% rate it starts inching up to the 6.2%. That took hold in 2010 for Michigan, Indiana and South Carolina. The Labor Department estimates that employers in up to 23 states will have to pay higher federal taxes this year.
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Unemployment 101: Who pays for jobless benefits, anyway?
Employers pay state and federal taxes to cover all those unemployment checks.
But with unemployment at 9 percent, those taxes aren't enough, leaving some states in dire straits. ...QuoteDo the Republicans have a plan?
House majority leader Eric Cantor of Virginia suggests immediately suspending the federal unemployment tax, to save employers $56 per worker per year.
This would cost $7 billion a year. ?With the spending we are cutting, I don?t think finding offsets is a problem,? says Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio.
Republicans would also require that people receiving unemployment checks work in a part-time job for a six-week trial period. Cantor says this results in faster returns to work and fewer unemployment payments, thus lowering state unemployment taxes.
Cantor is treating unemployed workers like welfare recipients. What next? Require Social Security seniors to work part time too?
Tone deaf
Cantor is treating unemployed workers like welfare recipients.
what would you call 99 weeks of paychecks for sitting at home?
What next? Require Social Security seniors to work part time too?
Really fair analogy there BT.....most people on unemployment benefits are
able-bodied and not "senior citizens" in their golden years. Do you actually
oppose people receiving unemployment checks be required to work in
programs like Cantor suggested?
Speaking of "what next" how many weeks would you go?
Would you add on to the 99 weeks?
I personally know several people that told me
"well I gotta find a job soon my unemployemnt is about to run out"
Then when the SantaClaus-O-Crats extended it again the same people
said...."good....now I dont have to go take just any job".
Like social security or workmans comp, unemployment insurance is just that. Insurance.
Except most insurance companies don't pay out more than they take in for decades.
They would go broke if they did that for very long.
The difference? The insurance companies don't have a money printing press like govt.
They dont have a "fraud machine".
Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program..
When Madoff does it, it is called a Ponzi scheme.
When the Feds do it, it is called Social Security.
Then if they are going to offer the insurance and they are losing money, then they need to raise the rates or get out of the business altogether.
And i would extend the benefits as long as the economy was in the tank.
Because in the long run that is cheaper than calling out the national guard to put down riots.
In the long run it is best to not perpetuate the fraud....
the fall will be harder when reality finally takes hold.
That same National Guard should be on our borders keeping
law breakers out that dont seem to have that hard of time
finding jobs while others sit at home and wait for the gvt
check you want to send them to keep them from rioting! Ha!
That's not a bad idea.
It's not?
I see it as another disgraceful tax on soccer Moms and working people.
Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people.
Definitely not to business and private corporations
QuoteDefinitely not to business and private corporations
Don't see why not.
It could result in overall lower costs to those businesses when all is said and done.
QuoteDefinitely not to business and private corporations
Don't see why not.
Well, chalk that up to how you see my quotes. You apparently see, what you want to seeIt could result in overall lower costs to those businesses when all is said and done.
COULD is a "nice" word. "Will" is far more elusive term. It could also lead to far more unemployment numbers, deeper recession, and an even greater length to any recovery, if one is to be seen in this generation
And "presently", as in here and now, as well as the immediate short term, the far more likely "will", is precisely what Cu4 referenced....Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people. But you knew that, having studied all up on the issue and all. So, how long are we to wait for this "could"? 2 more years? 5 more? and how many more millions in tax dollars do we keep using, to enable the status quo? Who gets to define "when all is said and done"?
And "presently", as in here and now, as well as the immediate short term, the far more likely "will", is precisely what Cu4 referenced....Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people.
And "presently", as in here and now, as well as the immediate short term, the far more likely "will", is precisely what Cu4 referenced....Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people.
So what has changed?
And "presently", as in here and now, as well as the immediate short term, the far more likely "will", is precisely what Cu4 referenced....Business will simply adjust by not giving raises or not hiring as many people.
So what has changed?
oy vey. Recall when unemployment was no more than 5%. Businesses WERE adding staff. People WERE being employed. Fed revenues WERE up
The what has changed part is largely Government reach...1st in the housing market, helping to bring that crashing down, then in the private industry with bank bailouts and Tarp. Largely stagnating any attempt at an economic recovery by its ever pervasive attempt at supposedly helping to facilitate economic recovery. Prince can explain this far better than I, but this latest boondoggle comes right on the heels of Obama supposed wanting to "work with business". And his "helping" translates into more taxes thrust upon them
And I never did quite get an answer to who gets to define "when all is said and done"?
Which has very much to do with the Obama proposal...more taxes being placed on the one area that doesn't need any more taxes, IF we're to start turning the economy around and bring down the unemployment #'s, that those same businesses & employers will be shouldered with. That IS the here and now
true lack of claws mean we started out not eating meat. but the introduction to it has vastly improve our quality of life. other animals had similiar result. the chimp who eats the most meat will tends to be leader.
but I maybe biased since last week I binged KFC 5 pieces in 5min. and I feel much better from the experience.
Intestinal tract length. Carnivorous animals have intestinal tracts that are
3-6x their body length, while herbivores have intestinal tracts 10-12x their body
length. Human beings have the same intestinal tract ratio as herbivores.
Stomach acidity. Carnivores' stomachs are 20x more acidic than the stomachs
of herbivores. Human stomach acidity matches that of herbivores.
Saliva. The saliva of carnivores is acidic. The saliva of herbivores is alkaline,
which helps pre-digest plant foods. Human saliva is alkaline.
How many carnivores/omnivores on the planet have to cook their food (meat) before they eat it? How many would get sick and die if they do not? It seems that carnivores & omnivores are designed so that meat does not make them sick and die, unfortunately for us it has the opposite effect.
LOL....."very wrong"!
Yeah sure Ami "very wrong" ::)
Wait a minute.....shut down all the restaurants and homes cooking meat tonight!
Most Americans and most humans do not eat "raw meat all the time" as you claim you do.
We primarily cook meat because that's the main way our body can handle it very unlike most carnivors
In Belgium, raw meat is consumed by most residents on a daily basis. I don't remember hearing anything about the massive number of Belgium residents keeling over dead on a daily basis. Indeed, last time I checked, they were some of the healthiest people in Europe.
Stomach
•Proboscis monkeys are able to digest leaves because of their unusual stomachs. Their stomachs have different compartments that have cellulose-digesting bacteria. Digestion takes a long time and they need a lot of leaves to get enough nutrition. This makes the proboscis monkeys heavy with a pronounced potbelly.
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thus high meat societies tend to have higher obesity which leads to a multitude of
health problems like diabetes, cancer, cardio-disease.
so again it's not the meat.....it's the amount of meat and animal products we eat
I'm still waiting for you to show where eating raw meat will make you "sick and die" as you claimed.I never said it will make you sick and die as in every single time, but enough
As I pointed out, in Belgium eating raw meat is a daily or near daily experience for most of the population
and they have among the highest lifespans in the world. Care to explain that?
gotta be fair to meat the majority of food poisoning is from eating unwashed vegetables.
anyone remember spinach?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/13/ST2008051302252.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/05/13/ST2008051302252.html)
Is it really "raw" like the meat a lion rips from a zebra
or is it "prepared" so a human system can accept it?
Still waiting for you to show where eating raw meat will make you "sick and die".
First I never said that.
The quote I used, which were not my words (that's why they are in italics),
said/implied eating raw meat the way carnivores like lions do can "make you sick and die".
Clearly eating undercooked meat has made people very sick and some have died.
In my mind that is not debate-able.
The point of the quote I used is clearly that unlike lions and alligators the human system
is not as well equipped to eat raw unprepared uncooked meat.
Yum, went to Applebee's for dinner, ordered my steak rare.
Why would I assume that italics imply a quote, especially since you give no attribution to the quote?
- just like it would make your hypothetical lion sick and possibly die.
actually I`ve heard talk about what humans can kill without guns and the list is very small. zebra is definately not on the list. I speak for all of us- we are a wimpy-ass species. goats can kick our sorry asses.
actually I`ve heard talk about what humans can kill without guns and the list is very small.
Why don't you try some of the dishes?
Why would I assume that italics imply a quote, especially since you give no attribution to the quote?
http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/2008/06/faq_when_to_use_italics/ (http://www.cameronmoll.com/archives/2008/06/faq_when_to_use_italics/)
So AMI just so I am clear on this....by posting this article are you arguing that the leading US Health
and Medical organizations are wrong by stating that Americans who eat a lot of red meat are
raising their risk for a whole range of health problems? Is that huge bundle of data just a myth?
You wussie...why didnt you order uncoooked!?
Thank you for supplying an opinion piece that says someone thinks italics look better than doing proper quotations.
Let's see what an actual style guide says:
- just like it would make your hypothetical lion sick and possibly die.
I doubt it!...Lions are carnivores!
Honestly Ami I just don't wanna get sick.
I have an extremely sensitive stomach
I get sick a lot when I travel
I was deathly ill in Jamaica!
Cooking is only necessary if the meat is allowed to become tainted. The government tells
you to cook your meat thoroughly because they don't want you to sue the government
when it fails to properly inspect and label your meat.
Where does it say it that fancy smancy guide that it's ok to LOL or LMAO or for Dr. Dre to use nigga?
Sometimes I wanna use wanna....it just makes the point better
slang ain't usually in no dictionary either....but it is language....YO!
somebody may call it wrong
but what is wrong one place is right other places
Why would anyone sue the gvt?
I thought people didn't get "sick and die" from raw/undercooked meat?
actually I`ve heard talk about what humans can kill without guns and the list is very small. zebra is definately not on the list. I speak for all of us- we are a wimpy-ass species. goats can kick our sorry asses.
It's a shame that you haven't bothered to train your stomach to eat outside of your comfort zone.
This is one of the reasons why Americans are generally looked down upon in other countries - we disdain their foods.
Guess you don't eat jerky, then? It's raw, you know.
And, BTW, LOL and LMAO are abbreviations, not slang.
A video made in the 30s that documents a tribe of pygmies hunting and killing an elephant without modern weapons:*
Sorry I prefer following the directions and advice of the US gvt food agencies and US medical community.
I dont think most jerky in the US is "raw".
It is dried/smoked with low heat.
I wonder what the world human population would be if humans for their primary food source
actually had to hunt down wild prey animals without modern weapons like say lions or wolves
do on a regular basis. I know obesity wouldn't be the problem it is!
Jerky is uncooked, ie, raw.
Well, according to you, it's just not possible."not possible"?....no just a zillion times harder than cruisin thru a drive thru window for animal matter
Humans cannot hunt animals,
and even if we did catch one, we couldn't eat it.Uh?....why the hell not?......of course we could eat it.......just throw it on the grill!
Jerky is uncooked, ie, raw.
Is smoked meat not considered "cooked"?
Uh?....why the hell not?......of course we could eat it.......just throw it on the grill!
I`m planning to make pork jerky , have you made any that is sweet?
here is sf we have a local jerky called sugar cured prk and it`s extremely tasty
can you give me tips on making sweet type jerkies?
can you give me tips on making sweet type jerkies?
my last batch crystalized so it meat rock candy
"And I'm still waiting on an example or two of fresh,
raw meat causing someone to get "sick and die".
http://www.delish.com/food-fun/foods-that-kill-raw-meat-eggs#fbIndex11 (http://www.delish.com/food-fun/foods-that-kill-raw-meat-eggs#fbIndex11)
I hope almost nobody (unless thats all they have) is eating truely raw unprepared meat. I dont really have access to death certificates that show cause of death, but it is rather silly to think eating raw meat has not made people very sick or caused death when almost all US Health and Medical entities argue strongly against eating meat raw because of the dangers.
And I guess since we seem to like to play "gotcha games" I am still wanting for you to prove the Intuit had
"no health problems for millenia". None? Wow!
Bear Grylls eating raw zebra meat, man vs wild