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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: kimba1 on December 07, 2011, 01:23:39 AM

Title: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: kimba1 on December 07, 2011, 01:23:39 AM
We all know these guys are very responsible, sadly this stuff can happen

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/06/BA1D1M99V5.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/06/BA1D1M99V5.DTL)
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 07, 2011, 09:42:38 AM
What myth were they trying to bust? That one can fire a homemade canon ball? That cannonballs can miss?
 
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: kimba1 on December 07, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
Maybe it's a water experiment. It was aim at barrels of water.

Just found out it maybe partially the locations fault. The bombsite had previous incident.the show did used that place for safety reasons. This may totally change how they pick subject matter and where they do thier experiments.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 07, 2011, 10:56:19 AM
Is there a myth that a cannon cannot destroy a water tank? Surely this is a well-known fact.

I suppose they were testing the cannon. They should move their experimentation site to where this will not happen again, assuming that lawsuits over this do not result in the show being cancelled.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: kimba1 on December 07, 2011, 11:05:41 AM
They're required to have insurance to use that site,but thier definately be more delligent on safety.

I just don't see how thier could of been more careful to begin with. It's a bomb disposal site,not a random empty lot.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Amianthus on December 07, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
Apparently the myth was about what materials could be fired out of a cannon.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 07, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
Was there  a myth that a cannonball could not be fired out of a cannon? I could see using cantaloupes, honeydews and watermelons... Even antelopes, honeybees and felons, but cannonballs are pretty much what cannons are for.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Amianthus on December 07, 2011, 01:33:21 PM
Was there  a myth that a cannonball could not be fired out of a cannon?

In scientific experimentation, there is a concept called a "control".

And they had previously done one about firing balls of cheese out of cannon; I assume that they were "revisiting" this one, as they sometimes do.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 07, 2011, 03:09:15 PM
The myth is that a ball of cheese is less dangerous than a cannonball?

I still do not get the experiment they were doing here. What is the myth about cannons and cannonballs? Is there a myth about firing cheeseballs? I am afraid I missed that one.
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Amianthus on December 07, 2011, 04:33:38 PM
The myth is that a ball of cheese is less dangerous than a cannonball?

The myth in the earlier episode was that a ship's captain had run out of cannonballs during a naval battle and had ordered his crew to use the cheese they had in their hold and fire that out of the cannon. This was successful and he eventually drove off the other ship. They demonstrated that cheese could work very well as cannonballs as it did a fine of shredding the replica sails and punching holes in the replica ship that had been setup.

I'm assuming from what I've read that a number of fans wanted to know what other substances would work as cannonballs as well. To see how well they worked as substitute cannonballs, I assume they would fire real cannonballs at various targets, then fire the substitutes and compare the damage. This would be called "science".
Title: Re: Nobody saw that coming
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on December 07, 2011, 08:32:49 PM
Okay, now I see the point.  Thanks for clearing that up.

But surely there are many better myths to debunk than the use of cheese for cannon ammo.