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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BSB on January 29, 2013, 01:32:25 AM
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Fox canned Palin, finally. Even Fox knows that the GOP can't overcome it's image as the party of dumb unless it changes it's ways.
BSB
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Yea....that has to be it ::)
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My guess is that Fox looked at the books and the viewership and decided that Sarah was being paid too much, and offered her less and she quit in a huff, like the diva she is. That would be consistent with her modus operandi.
Odds are that if she has a good financial adviser, she can invest the money she made on her two awful books and her speaking engagements and retire in comfort, probably in some place warmer than Wasilla. I hear she bought a house in Arizona.
I wonder who financed the rental of her bus during the first part of the primaries, and what was her purpose. I imagine that she was hoping for several hundred thousand 'bagger buddies like Kramer and sirs would rise up and support her for president, but discovered that her 15 minutes of fame had expired.
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Seems to me the left is pretty dumb labeling everyone on the right as dumb. Just saying, never underestimate the enemy.
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If she won the GOP primary, I'd support her in a heartbeat
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Palin is and was undeniably ignorant, and unwilling to learn as well. There is ample evidence of this in what those charged with handling her campaign have written about her.
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Palin is and was undeniably ignorant, and unwilling to learn as well. There is ample evidence of this in what those charged with handling her campaign have written about her.
Right. Palin is dumb, Bush is dumb, Reagan is dumb. Dumb to call them that.
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Large collection of Sara Palin articles ....
http://www.foxnews.com/topics/us/sarah-palin.htm (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/us/sarah-palin.htm)
Excerpts froma long recent article , mentions Arazona house and several potential new venues for Sara Palin
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/end-sarah-palin/story?id=18344313
Reporters Notebook: By SHUSHANNAH WALSHE (@shushwalshe)
Jan. 29, 2013
Sarah Palin's break up with Fox News should not have been, well, breaking news, as she had publicly complained in August on Facebook that the network had canceled her appearances at the Republican National Convention. And going back even further, Palin didn't give Fox the scoop in October 2011 when she announced she wasn't going to run for president. Still, the news of the Fox split overtook Twitter and the news cycle by storm.......
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I, for one, did think Palin would lose her relevancy when she quit the Alaska governorship, and also when she didn't run for president. But in both cases, people who both love her and hate her just couldn't get enough information about her, and she still got an incredible amount of news coverage. Her voice was heard loud and clear, even if it blasted only from her Facebook posts. That's just another example of what she's been able to pull off that others who've come before or after just haven't. Palin's been written off from Day One, but like a boomerang, she just keeps coming back.
Yes, she wasn't really helpful to Mitt Romney's campaign, but she also never really explicitly backed him. And what an odd pair they would have made if she had. In her interview last weekend with Steve Bannon, the executive chairman of Breitbart News who made "The Undefeated," the positive 2011 movie about her, she said, "The problem is that some on the right are now skittish because of the lost 2012 election. They shouldn't be. Conservatism didn't lose. A moderate Republican candidate lost after he was perceived to alienate working-class Reagan Democrats and independent voters." Not a sign that she wants to rethink some of her policy points, or that she will retreat into the shadows.
Another Possible TV Home
I think more likely than her fading away (we all still cover every eyebrow-raising Facebook post of hers) is that she will possibly find an on-air home elsewhere, at somewhere like CNN. She told Breitbart.com that she "encourages others to step out in faith, jump out of the comfort zone, and broaden our reach as believers in American exceptionalism. That means broadening our audience. I'm taking my own advice here as I free up opportunities to share more broadly the message of the beauty of freedom and the imperative of defending our republic and restoring this most exceptional nation. We can't just preach to the choir; the message of liberty and true hope must be understood by a larger audience."
Later in the interview, she added, "I know the country needs more truth-telling in the media, and I'm willing to do that. So, we shall
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In an interview with ABC News, Bannon, who remains close to Palin, said he didn't think she would go to another network, saying, "I don't anticipate she would ever do punditry again," but as we've all learned when it comes to Palin, "expect the unexpected."
"I think people underestimate her all the time," Bannon said. "She has two things the factotums in the Republican Party can't replicate. (A): charisma and (B): the ability to connect to working men and women in this country. Until the Republican establishment finds a way to appeal to working men and women in this country, they will remain the minority party."
Bannon also hinted at what could turn from a brewing argument to all-out war between "establishment Republicans" and Palin. It's a group she has criticized but has also clearly benefited from -- ever since her "discovery" by Bill Kristol to her position at Fox News.
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"The Republican establishment fears Gov. Palin for one simple reason: She is somebody the grassroots movement and the populist part of the Republican Party looks to for leadership. ... It's time for her to look for other avenues, other venues," Bannon said.
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One thing I've learned covering Palin so closely for so many years is the loyalty she inspires in her most devoted supporters. But she also inspires hate in a way that's hard to compare to other public figures, either politicians or celebrities.
It might be a small group of diehards, but they've made it clear since the Fox News announcement they aren't going anywhere, and I think we can expect them to stay loyal in whatever reinvention Palin does next.
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"Just saying, never underestimate the enemy"
You can't underestimate the right nor how dumb it is. And from The looks of this forum I'd say the same goes for you BT.
BSB
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You can always tell when the gun barrel is empty :-\
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I am reading "The Generals", only a few chapters in ,and already I can recommend it to anyone interested in WWII.
So Mountbatten really did think Eisenhower was a dummy. I thought that was just a story , but this book really makes the case for that attitude among many Europeans.
It might be very fortunate that American capability was strongly discounted, the Axis might have killed us more if they'dve had a better idea of our capability.
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I recall how lucky we were at Midway, when we knew the Japanese were coming, but from which direction and what was their primary target. Limited to only 3 carriers ourselves and no battleships, add a good guess that the target was Midway to catching all the Jap carriers flush with loaded planes and bombs on their flight decks, and dive bombers coming straight in from above.........yes, best not underestimate the enemy
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The Generals is a good book. When you're through I got another one you'll like. It's about the insurgency that took place within the Army during the Iraq/Afghan wars that lead to officers from Special Operations taking command of the wars. West Point has changed.
BSB
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You can always tell when the gun barrel is empty :-\
Like Joe Biden?......lol
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The Generals is a good book. When you're through I got another one you'll like. It's about the insurgency that took place within the Army during the Iraq/Afghan wars that lead to officers from Special Operations taking command of the wars. West Point has changed.
BSB
I remember that you reccomended it.
Thank you
I have only a fraction of the reading time I used to have , so it helps to avoid wasting time reading drivel.
"The Generals " (so far) is a winner , with something new to me on almost every page.
Do you agree with the authors premise that General Marshall had a winning strategy for choosing commanders that has been lost in time since to the detriment of the Army?
That idea is almost all new to me , I have only a small Army experience and very small experience indeed with the politics of officerhood.
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Having had the opportunity to see a truly outstanding officer in the heat of battle there is one thing they need to be above all else. A warrior.
BSB
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It is diffrent in the Navy, but perhaps that warrior nature would still be important.
I got aimed at by an enemy once , but I never learned what my reaction to real combat condition would be.
That is just good luck , I couldn't have planned worse nor come out better.
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You can always tell when the gun barrel is empty :-\
Like Joe Biden?......lol
Indeed ;)
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Plane, my regard for my former commanding officer is so high I'm going to do something I never do. I'm going to tell a war story.
We got hit, and hit badly, one afternoon about 4 or 5 o'clock. I was only about 10 meters from my CO when they opened up. He got on the radio immediately to get support on the way. While he was on the radio an enemy soldier immerged from the bush about 15 to 20 meters from us. My CO put down the headset to the radio, pulled a knife he had in his boot, charged the enemy soldier, put his knife to his throat, disarmed him, brought him back to where the headset was, another soldier took the captive, my CO got back on the radio.
Now that's a warrior.
BSB
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Wow.
That is a good story.
Why did he want to do that?
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He snatched him for future intelligence purposes right in the middle of a firefight.
BTW, you know what he does now? He's a meditation teacher in Calf. He lives alone with a cat. This is after spending his life working in the shadows for Special Operations.
BSB
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That is extraordinary.
I realise that only a few people can be so cool under high stress.
Is this learnable?
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"Is this learnable?"
I don't see how. I've had that "video" of him doing that in my mind for over 40 years but I've never broken it down purposely to try and see where his head was at. I know where some of the motivation came from. Several of our own were already dead at that point. He was the leader. That'll get you mad. Particularly if you're as a good a leader as he was. Anger is a powerful motivator. Then to, as the leader, he had the bigger picture in mind. The rest of us are just trying to get through the battle but he has to see things through a larger frame. Past, present, and future were in play for him. But sill, the way he did it, the fact that he did it, he just has more then most of us.
Six to eight months after I was wounded and left Vietnam he started operating deep in Laos. He and just one other guy. Above top secret. Completely illegal. Without the knowledge, and therefore permission, of the US Ambassador to Laos. The need to know probably only being the Joint Chiefs. Very few ever operate at that level.
BSB
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Plane, my regard for my former commanding officer is so high I'm going to do something I never do. I'm going to tell a war story.
We got hit, and hit badly, one afternoon about 4 or 5 o'clock. I was only about 10 meters from my CO when they opened up. He got on the radio immediately to get support on the way. While he was on the radio an enemy soldier immerged from the bush about 15 to 20 meters from us. My CO put down the headset to the radio, pulled a knife he had in his boot, charged the enemy soldier, put his knife to his throat, disarmed him, brought him back to where the headset was, another soldier took the captive, my CO got back on the radio.
Now that's a warrior.
BSB
Hoooraaaa.........thanks for sharing B 8)
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"Just saying, never underestimate the enemy"
You can't underestimate the right nor how dumb it is. And from The looks of this forum I'd say the same goes for you BT.
BSB
How long shall i reserve your room for you this visit?
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How long shall i reserve your room for you this visit?
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