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Title: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 19, 2016, 07:40:11 PM
That's sure going to put a crimp Cruz & Rubio's references of how not-so-conservative Trump is supposed to be.

The left can bad mouth Palin all they want.  Conservatives know her credentials, and she's not one to throw her credibility on those credentials out the window.  This could be a game changer with the upcoming Iowa Caucus & other primaries.  The game change being that Trump now becomes the presumptive GOP nominee for President
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 19, 2016, 07:49:08 PM
I really like Sara Palin, she is funny and wise.

But if we are looking at President Trump and Secretary of the interior Palin in a year from now, I will be pretty surprised.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 20, 2016, 11:34:52 AM
Palin knows that there are no chances of her ever getting elected to anything again. She was a QUITTER, who quit for reasons of personal greed. She is ignorant and detenrmined to saty that way. And she is a wilting flower., so the letches in the T ea Party will son look eleswhere for their masterbatory fantasies. So it makes sense to link herself to Trump, who appeals to the same ignorami as she does.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 20, 2016, 07:16:15 PM
  I don't think any of the Republican candidates would have rejected this endorsement.

  That she irritates Democrats is just gravy.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 20, 2016, 07:37:08 PM
  I don't think any of the Republican candidates would have rejected this endorsement.

  That she irritates Democrats is just gravy.

AMEN     8)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 21, 2016, 01:01:29 PM
 ;Speaking as a Democrat, I am not irritated one whit. Palin is a joke, and I merely rejoice at her resurfacing as one might herald the rturn of Sppedy Alka Seltzer, Mr, Whipple, or the Pizza Noid.
She and The Donald belong together.

On day we will  build a monument to Nationa Fools, and both will be in it.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 21, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
hehe.....like Plane so accurately concluded, the fact she irritates Dems to no degree is just the cherry on top     8)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 21, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
Palin is only a mild amusement. No one takes her seriously.

She is more like a teensy, peanut laden turd on top than a cherry. Her cherry days are looooong gone.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 21, 2016, 02:11:18 PM
Palin is only a mild amusement. No one takes her seriously.

to a hard core liberal, perhaps.  It is truly entertaining to see just how much she rankles folks like yourself, though
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 22, 2016, 12:31:32 PM
THere is zero chance Palin will be Trump´s running mate, and not much better cance hat shwe would b e appointed to anything useful. This is a ploy for her to get more donations. Sh is essentiaslly a paris ite on the Tea Party.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 22, 2016, 01:13:56 PM
LOL...and who the hell said, claimed, or even inferred Palin would be Trump's running mate??
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 23, 2016, 07:06:20 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-not-lose-voters/vi-BBoBLW0


uGh, Trump still isn't my favorite, things like this make me think he would jump the shark if only he could.

    But I do get an idea of why he is appealing, he is so totally out of the PC pale.

      Lots of people feel put upon and restricted , the narrow limiters on freedom rankle.

         So yea , I also like to see Sara Palin and DJT kicking sacred cows and pushing over fences.

              This isn't what I want in a president , but I have a greasy good feeling that it is happening.

     If only I could have this marvelous spectacle and wind up with a good president also ,....

       Hope the one doesn't rule the other out.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 23, 2016, 08:30:34 PM
I can see Palin's attraction....she's just as fed up as the rest of us are at DC politicians, who campaign on one thing, get elected on it, then as soon as they reach DC, do nothing but perpetuate the status quo
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 24, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-endorsing-donald-trump-makes-snl-great-again/ar-BBoCLev

Inevitable.

Pretty funny of course , but somehow there are plenty of people who think that the satire is the real .
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 27, 2016, 10:53:14 AM
Palin is not fed up with politicians, she is just spewing her usual nonsense. Her speeches are entirely to solicit contributions, and perhaps to wangle some sort of sinecure should Trump manage to get elected. She has nothing to lose, in  a nation of 330 million, there are many who are so fucking stupid they believe her  nonsense, just as there are a lot of old farts who have fantasies about My Little Pony to the point of dressing in horse costumes.


There are a lot of people who actually paid retail for her SECOND ghostwritten book. Those are her fans.

Again, there is no hope that she will ever be elected again, or even allowed by the GOP to run as a candidate for anything.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 27, 2016, 01:29:10 PM
She's absolutely fed up with politicians.....which is why her endorsement of Trump.  She's always bucked the system, and his politicially incorrect campaign rhetoric is precisely what she admires.  It's not rocket science, and its not about trying to get him to pick her as a VP candidate either
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 27, 2016, 08:50:11 PM
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Again, there is no hope that she will ever be elected again, or even allowed by the GOP to run as a candidate for anything.


Allow?

Can a party prevent a candidate from running?
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 12:05:45 AM
Palin would have to win a primary at least. That means that she would have to convince a plurality of voters to vote for a woman known to simply quit the job she was elected to.

I seriously doubt  that this will happen.;
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 12:21:16 AM
Seriously doubting she'd win another election is nothing like the GOP not allowing her to run
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 12:29:47 AM
The way you prevent someone from running is by convincing their donors to not donate to their election.
Both parties in the past have prevented candidates from running. They are more sophisticated now in their tactics. Obvioulsy, they will not publically refuse anyone from running.

The GOP canned FL senator  Mel Martinez from its chairmanship, then forced him out of the Senate. They did this by getting some fatcats to hire him as a lobbyist in return for ending his Senate career.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 12:36:12 AM
That's not the same as claiming the GOP wouldn't allow her to run.  If she were to run, she'd get a ton of support from Tea party folk and a vast majority of conservatives.  It doesn't require a GOP Establishment endorsement.  Hell, that's exactly why Trump is doing that well.  The GOP establishment hates him, because they can't control him.  Are they "allowing him" to run?    ::)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 10:15:57 AM
They are clearly trying to prevent him from getting the nomination. If he somehow gets shot by some crazed nut between now and November, I will not be surprised. The CIA has recipes for making crazed nuts.

Again, Palin will never be elected to anything ever again. Her wad has been shot. And of course, she is as ignorant a person who has ever run for office. She is the political equivalent of a Kardassian, famous mostly for being famous.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 10:30:24 AM
And also again, Palin not winning any elections, should she choose to run, isn't anywhere near the same as the GOP not allowing her to run, as you originally claimed
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 12:03:58 PM
Palin lacks the money to launch a campaign. To prevent her from running, all they have to do is to suggest that if they donate money to Palin, things might not go well for them. No one donates major money unless they have a reason to do so, and their reasons mostly are related to money. The best reason to deny her a chance to run is that she cannot win, and her candidacy will be a waste of campaign fund money.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
A) She's not running
B) if she where to run, she'd have no problem getting donations.....tons of them
C) is completely irrelevent, since she's not running

And most importantly
D) does nothing to supposedly validate the ignorant claim, that the GOP is in a position to not allow her to run     ::)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
Palin has some sort campaign fund and has been accepting money from fools for some time now.

I doubt that the GOP will ever have to prevent her from running, as I don't think she will ever run for anything again.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 04:08:42 PM
And the fact remains that the GOP couldn't stop her from running either, despite your grossly inaccurate claim.     ::)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 28, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Why don't you ask the GOP if you can run for congressman or senator and see how far you get?
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 28, 2016, 05:36:36 PM
This isn't about me, Dr Deflection     ::)
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 28, 2016, 06:05:59 PM
Again, Palin will never be elected to anything ever again.

Only because it is beneath her.
She could easily find a safe Congressional district and win a seat.
But she has no need to spend time in Washington with such crooks Nancy Pelosi & Paul Ryan in the House.
Hell I certainly wouldn't want to either.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 29, 2016, 08:58:34 AM
Palin is a resident of Alaska, which has just one (1)  representative. And Palin is certainly loathed by the Republican Party of Alaska.  She is a QUITTER.  She elected governor, and she REFUSED TO DO HER JOB. And her decision was not based on politics, but on her own monetary ambitions. She made SUCKERS out of all those people who voted for her.  She turned out to be a Betsy Wetsy that refused to Wetsy.

Most states require that their congressmen actually LIVE in the district, which certainly makes sense. She could not be elected to any national office and will not be. She does not actually stand for anything except being "against Washington".  She would be as useless as that other ditz, FORMER (with an emphasis on the former)  Michelle Bachmann, who did nothing useful in Congress except exhibit major religious nutball insanity.

Palin is POLITICALLY DECEASED, DEAD. Like John Cleese's parrot. She is through.  I really doubt that she has even the ability to make it as a rightwing radio rantster.  It would be fun to mock her, however. She is essentially doomed to be the Official Rightwing Piñata.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 29, 2016, 10:29:58 AM
All of which is both irrelevant, since she's not running, nor proof that the GOP wouldn't allow her to run, as reinforced that Trump is currently the front runner for the GOP, and they hat his guts 
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 29, 2016, 01:59:33 PM
Trump is a singularly hateful guy.

Look, sirs, there is Sarah. Does Sarah run? No, Sarah does not run.
See Sarah, See Sarah not run.
Why does Sarah not run? 
Sarah is a quitter. Sarah ran once, then Sarah quit.
What does Sarah do best?
Sarah babbles. Hear Sarah. hear Sarah babble.
Sarah is a quitter. Watch Sarah quit.
Quit, quit, quit. See Sarah quit.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 29, 2016, 03:51:00 PM
Trump is a singularly hateful guy.
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Your opinion on the matter, has been weighed, measured, and found wanting. 

And what Palin does or doesn't do is irrevelent, since the GOP is in no position to disallow her to do anything, as you erroneously claimed

Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 30, 2016, 12:49:55 PM
Palin lacks the money to launch a campaign. To prevent her from running, all they have to do is to suggest that if they donate money to Palin, things might not go well for them. No one donates major money unless they have a reason to do so, and their reasons mostly are related to money. The best reason to deny her a chance to run is that she cannot win, and her candidacy will be a waste of campaign fund money.

This seems to relate to the Clinton candidacy.
Most of her potential competition was shooed away , discouraged by her huge warchest and her grip in the Democratic money spigot.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 30, 2016, 01:04:57 PM
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm
How many presidential candidates are there?

Too many to count. But you may count them if you wish.  Do.not forget Thomas  Winterbottom and John Worldpeace. Or Wanda Duckwald.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 30, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
......and that has what to do with the tea in China??     ???
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 31, 2016, 11:31:03 AM
The point is that the success of a candidate depends on the candidate getting funds. If all of the multitude of reasons why Hillary is unacceptable as a candidate were enough to cause some fatcat to fund a different candidate, then such a candidate would be funded, regardless of what Hillary's supporter's did, just as the annoying Gingrich found Macau casino operator Adelson to almost entirely fund his campaign against Romney. If an alternative candidate manages to get huge numbers of small contributors, as Bernie has done, the same thing happens. There was apparently no way for Romney supporters to "shoo away" Adelson. Hillary supporters cannot "shoo away" Bernie's contributors.

 Once the money is present, then reporters begin to talk up support among competitors.

It is an obvious point.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Plane on January 31, 2016, 12:02:12 PM
  Which of these methods is off limits to Palin?
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 31, 2016, 02:14:34 PM
She cannot fly because she has no wings.

She cannot run for office because no one with money will support her.

It is a feature that she shares with nearly all her fellow citizens.

Again, Palin will never be elected to anything, ever again. Although it is  legally and technically possible,  it is not going to happen.
Title: Re: Hmmm.......Palin endorses Trump
Post by: sirs on January 31, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
The point is that the success of a candidate depends on the candidate getting funds.

Which has nothing at all to do with the GOP not allowing anyone to run, which was the original point to this line.  And in Palin's case, she'd get a ton of funding, if she were to ever decide to run.  But she's not, so its irrelevant.  And the claim that the GOP wouldn't allow it to happen, has also been properly layed to rest, as well