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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on February 02, 2016, 04:07:51 PM

Title: A little perspective
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 02, 2016, 04:07:51 PM
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Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 02, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
The death of actual American citizens due to Row v Wade is ZERO.

Women have the right to choose, not religious womanhating nutballs like you lot.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 02, 2016, 11:41:45 PM
The death of actual American citizens due to Row v Wade is ZERO.

Women have the right to choose, not religious womanhating nutballs like you lot.

Actually only a small fraction of a percent of those aborted survive.

I only have heard of two that survived to adulthood.

If my attitude must be woman hating, shouldn't your attitude deserve to be called baby hating?

 
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 03, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
Fetus hating at best. No babies are killed, just fetuses. Fetuses are NOT babies.

It is clearly woman hating, because it is the government and the law telling a women what she must do with her own body.
It is also poor people hating, because any pregnant woman with enough money can easily get an abortion outside the country or perhaps inside it if she has enough money with absolutely no risk of being prosecuted.

Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 03, 2016, 10:47:48 AM
It is clearly woman hating

Abortion has killed tens of millions of unborn women that would have enjoyed having a chance at a life.
Clearly the real "woman hating" are those that kill millions of women that would have impacted the world.
One side of the equation represents DEATH.

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Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 03, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
One side of the equation sands for GOVERNMENT SUPPRESSION OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

Let women decide!
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 03, 2016, 12:18:36 PM
You mean like the women in all those pictures?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 03, 2016, 12:41:11 PM
Let women decide!

Let slave owners decide!

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Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 03, 2016, 02:04:19 PM
 Get serious!

You are a religious nut that wants to use the government to control women's lives because you don't think they will agree with your nutball  attitudes.
You are never going to convince me to be a religious control freak like you.
Give it a rest.;
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 03, 2016, 02:08:13 PM
And right back to the 3rd grade name calling as a means of "debate".  How so.......predictable
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 03, 2016, 02:51:39 PM
You are a religious nut that wants to use the government to control women's lives
because you don't think they will agree with your nutball attitudes.

Ha Ha....what a joke....you are the one that advocates government involvement not me.
I prefer government funds not be used directly or indirectly for killing babies.
You are the "nutball" championing killing millions of female and black babies.
The world would be a better place with them.

This horror is what real "nutballs" support.

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Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 03, 2016, 06:56:40 PM
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http://withfetus.com/20150821comic.php
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 03, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
Fetus hating at best.


Why isn't "fetus" a class of human being?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 03, 2016, 08:45:43 PM
Why is an egg not a chicken?

The woman has the right  top decide. Not you, not the government.

Fetuses have no rights.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 03, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Funny how slaves, who were far older than fetuses were given the same label
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 04, 2016, 12:46:01 AM
Why is an egg not a chicken?



Good question, I suggest that there is no good answer to it.

Though I have heard that a Chicken is mostly an egg's way of making more eggs.

But as an answer to my question I find it seriously wanting , neither a chicken nor an egg deserves the respect and protection of law that any human being does.


Do you mean that a chicken is not an egg in the same sense that a woman is not a man? That a child is not an adult, a girl is not a woman, or a boy is not a Man?

That is, not in any way that should matter before the law?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 04, 2016, 09:33:54 AM
The production of eggs should be left to the hen. The fate of every fetus should b determined by the pr4egnanyt woman and not you and your band of religious misogynistic nut cases. This is no a matter for governments.

If you think that unborn fetuses have rights, you shou8ld concentrate this weird view on the women whose right it is to make the decision. This should not be a matter for government and politics. You are trying to impose your wacko religious views on everyone else.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 04, 2016, 12:11:50 PM
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Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 04, 2016, 01:31:46 PM
You want the government to force women to give birth.

Excuse me while I am 100% unimpressed.

Every time you wank off you are dooming 100,000 sperm from fulfilling what God promised them.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 04, 2016, 01:50:18 PM
Sperm require an egg to fulfil what God promised them.  Biology 101     ::)
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 04, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
They are alive and the wiggle and we know they are human.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 04, 2016, 07:01:10 PM
They are alive, but not human, nor know they are.  They have only 1 function.....find an egg to fertilize.  Then, and ONLY then, has it become a human life.  Biology, 101
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 05, 2016, 12:20:46 PM
So go on and wank off all you want.

I think the Bible opposes it. If the Bible is the word of God, then God must be against it.

Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 05, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
What you think and what actually is, generally are 2 different planets
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 05, 2016, 09:33:30 PM
So go on and wank off all you want.

I think the Bible opposes it. If the Bible is the word of God, then God must be against it.

Do you mean the death of Onan?

He was obliged to cause a pregnancy, his sin was disobeying that command.

Not the coitus interuptus by itself, but the avoidance of his responsibility.

So no , I don't know that the scriptures are against the wank.

Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 05, 2016, 09:42:14 PM
You are trying to impose your wacko religious views on everyone else.

Is it a whacko religious view of yours that persons can be separated from their personhood by the application of a Latin word?


Short search of Google Translate.

Ah HA!

You sir are a Senex!

This, of course, changes your standing before the law, just the same as calling a baby a fetus reduces it from a him or her to an it.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 06, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
Let the woman decide what to call it and its fate.

It ainlt any of your beeswax.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 06, 2016, 05:39:34 PM
 It is hard to understand your attitude.

Would you favor allowing men the right to kill their wives?

Long as it is no one you know?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 06, 2016, 07:03:31 PM
If their wives are entirely housed within the husbands' bodies, yes, of course.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 06, 2016, 07:22:47 PM
  That would be no problem.

    For a cannibal.

  Is that what the personhood of a person depends on?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 06, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
you are making no sense again.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 07, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
you are making no sense again.

If it passed above your reach , I suspect you did not reach as hard as you could have.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 08, 2016, 02:18:42 PM
The personhood of any given fetus  clearly should be determined by the person closest to that fetus. And that would be the woman carrying it. 
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: kimba1 on February 08, 2016, 06:51:16 PM
My question in this issue is abortion separate or connected to birth control? Meaning is pro-life ok with contraceptives. I tend to hear split on the matter. I was nder the impression abortion was basicly a anti-birth control issue.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 08, 2016, 08:46:19 PM
My question in this issue is abortion separate or connected to birth control? Meaning is pro-life ok with contraceptives. I tend to hear split on the matter. I was nder the impression abortion was basicly a anti-birth control issue.

No.
Birth control is a good idea, unless you make it retroactive.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 09, 2016, 09:09:57 AM
The same clowns who oppose a woman's right to choose  would shift their efforts to making contraceptives difficult to obtain once they got their  forced birther goals attained. They have basically the same goals toward putting women back in their place as the Taliban.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 09, 2016, 10:25:20 AM
Can you be any more ignorant?
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 09, 2016, 12:14:55 PM
No one can beat you are sheer ignorance.  You win all the prizes for ignorance, sirs.
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: sirs on February 09, 2016, 12:25:11 PM
I'm not the one inferring a goal of driving women back to the ages of the Taliban.  That's all your ignorant you
Title: Re: A little perspective
Post by: Plane on February 11, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
The same clowns who oppose a woman's right to choose  would shift their efforts to making contraceptives difficult to obtain once they got their  forced birther goals attained. They have basically the same goals toward putting women back in their place as the Taliban.

Wow.

That is far off the mark.

There is some split , in that some that oppose contraception also oppose abortion, but this is a faction , not a majority, of the anti-abortion force.

The entire anti-abortion mob agree that it is not a safe assumption to make that a child is not human before it is dried off the first time.

  There is really no tie in with any anti suffrage movement in any respect.