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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Plane on February 28, 2016, 05:07:41 PM

Title: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Plane on February 28, 2016, 05:07:41 PM
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/02/28/dnc-vice-chair-resigns-throws-support-behind-bernie-sanders?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork


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This could be that little snowball at the top of the hill.

Or just one congressional representative kicking the establishment in the shin.

Time will tell.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2UM8F4EuUbw

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 28, 2016, 06:22:08 PM
Hawaii is a progressive state. I doubt this will harm her career.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Plane on February 28, 2016, 11:20:58 PM
How much does it help Bernie Sanders?
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 29, 2016, 09:35:00 AM
How much depends on the primaries. I suspect that Bernie has a good chance of winning in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 29, 2016, 10:17:22 AM
This is the same Democratic Congresswoman that called out Obama on his illegal war in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=329TFfPxZBU
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 29, 2016, 11:58:56 AM
Every Republican candidate thinks that Obama should do MORE in Syria.
Whether it is illegal is questionable, as the US is pledged to defend Iraq against terrorists, and ISIS is in Iraq as well as in Syria.

Congress could make it illegal and impossible by denying funds to pay for it. But they haven;t and they won't.

I think that the more the US does to attack Isis, the more likely it is that Isis will attack the US. Their main goal is to establish an Islamic State. They do not have a real motive to attack the US other than in self-defense. Utterly destroying Isis is a worthy motive, but whether it is possible remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on February 29, 2016, 03:15:33 PM
Every Republican candidate thinks that Obama should do MORE in Syria.

Not really..the Republican front-runner certainly doesn't.

"Let Russia fight ISIS in Syria"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/29/donald-trump-let-russia-fight-isis-syria/
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on February 29, 2016, 11:49:46 PM
If Trump were elected, he would certainly not follow this. Assad is Iran's best ally, by the way, as Assad's Alawites are  a Shia group.
The dumbest of the bunch is Cruz, who thinks carpet bombing cities in which 90% of those killed would be mostly noncombatant civilians.

The US did not cause the Syrian Civil War, and it will not be decided by force of arms, no matter who wields them.


Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 02, 2016, 09:25:05 AM
Tulsi is a good speaker and a very logical person. I would be happy to have her as my Congresswoman.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 02, 2016, 11:41:41 PM
The US did not cause the Syrian Civil War

Obama greatly contributed to the destabilization of Syria
by arming/funding/training the Al-Qaeda connected rebels.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 03, 2016, 09:20:06 AM
That is, of course, bullshit.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 03, 2016, 10:58:17 AM
That is, of course, bullshit.

Yeah sure!

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It's a Huge Mistake to Back Rebel Groups
http://time.com/3340998/mistake-back-rebels/


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Obama Seeking $500 Million To Train, Arm Syrian Rebels

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/26/obama-syrian-rebels_n_5534421.html


What making matters worse looks like!
Thanks Obama for arming the Islamist!

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Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 03, 2016, 11:55:48 AM
No one denies that the Syrians are destroying Syria, you chuckehead.  What weapons Isis has are those they got from the incompetent Iraqi Army.
The Syrian Civil War has been bloodier than it would otherwise have been because of the stupid unnecessary war mongered by the lying Juniorbusg and Cheney.  But it was started and is being continued by Syrians.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 03, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
are you actually denying that Obama arming/funding/training Syrian rebels to the tune of
$500-$800 million dollars has/had no effect on the ability of the Syrian Islamist Rebels to carry
the war forward?...which has led to the destruction of Syria and hundreds of thousands of deaths!

This is not some extreme position when a Democratic U.S. Congresswoman even calls
Obama's Syrian action a "CIA Illegal, Counterproductive War to Overthrow Assad"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHkher6ceaA
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 03, 2016, 01:30:42 PM
Why yes, I am.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 03, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
Why yes, I am.

well it is certainly good enough for me for you to:

A. Admit Obama wasted a trillion dollars in Syria arming/training/funding Islamist
or
B. Lie
or
C. Look foolish not admitting the obvious over pride
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 03, 2016, 10:28:23 PM
Nobody spent any trillion dollars.
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on March 04, 2016, 02:18:50 PM
Nobody spent any trillion dollars.

Hell Obama spent 500 million to train 4 or 5 Syrian rebels.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/4-or-5-in-syria-trained-by-us---500m-spent-527009859993
http://nypost.com/2015/09/18/team-obama-has-spent-500m-to-train-four-or-five-syrian-rebels/

"Section 1225 of the NDAA allocates $531.5 million directly to the Syria Train and Equip program, and directs an additional $25.8 million to the US Army and $42.8 million to the US Air Force, to cover the costs of their participation"
https://www.rt.com/usa/318054-ndaa-syria-isis-ukraine/

It's probably well over a trillion if you count CIA covert aid
Title: Re: Tulsi Gabbard
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on March 04, 2016, 05:53:09 PM
Nonsense.