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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on May 11, 2016, 08:22:48 PM

Title: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on May 11, 2016, 08:22:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUaOXiQZwQ4
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 12, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
The speech was made in 1990.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 12, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
.........and?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on May 12, 2016, 03:33:33 PM
The speech was made in 1990.

Exactly and by Bill Clinton!
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 12, 2016, 06:37:35 PM
Then we know that Bill was bright enough to stop saying it.

Net migration from Mexico in 1990 was much greater than now.
Now, more Mexicans are leaving than arriving.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 12, 2016, 06:50:48 PM
While more "other than Mexicans" have been crossing in exponentially higher numbers, than ever before
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 12, 2016, 07:01:07 PM
sez you, with zero proof.
Trump is focused on the "rapist Mexicans: that Mexico is "sending us".
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 12, 2016, 07:15:31 PM
Says me, backed by report after report after report.  Just read another where Mexico is literally helping to shuttle Central Americans, across their country
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 12, 2016, 11:19:25 PM
Here's yet another (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article75164957.html)  This being Cubans
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 13, 2016, 05:38:36 AM
The Republican controlled Congress refuses to change the law that welcomes Cubans, even when Marco Rubio, long absent from his job,  proposed it. Neither Bill Clinton, who you posted this crap to badmouth, not Trump has said a thing about stopping the flow of Cubans. What is Panama to do with them?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 13, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Why should they?  Do we carve out a special law, for each and every country?  So, because the law won't change, its ok for Mexico to facilitate illegal immigration into this country??  See, you're making my point
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 13, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
If the US revoked the law welcoming Cuban "exiles" and promising benefits to them, this would end.

Panama has no way to send the Cubans back to Cuba.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 13, 2016, 01:21:59 PM
We are a nation of laws.  You follow them, and everything else is moot.  Until that time.....

What Panama does or doesn't do is their issue.  Our issue is when foreign nations attempt to circumvent and break our laws.  Would we be justified in breaking Panamanian law, because of some inconvenience we're having??  Of course not.  So why is would it be ok for any other country to facilitate the breaking of our laws??

Here's the quick answer to that.....ITS NOT
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 13, 2016, 09:06:03 PM
The Cubans are not violating our laws.They are exiles from Communism. Congress made that clear long ago.
We just do not allow them to fly here. They must come by sea or land, for some reason.

Marco Rubio tried to get their status changed to that of all other immigrants, but the GOP Congress refused to  consider his bill.,
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: sirs on May 13, 2016, 10:36:32 PM
ANYONE that crosses our border illegally is violating our laws.   And any country that attempts to facilitate the breaking of our laws is no friend of ours.  Simple as that
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Plane on May 15, 2016, 10:53:20 AM
When a guy in Florida is speaking Spanish, how do we know he is Cuban?
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 15, 2016, 01:47:36 PM
By the accent, by asking specific questions and by the use of words, it is quite easy to distinguish Cubans from Mexicans and everyone else.

An American would need to study quite a bit to pass for a Canadian, or vice versa.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Plane on May 15, 2016, 08:06:59 PM

An American would need to study quite a bit to pass for a Canadian, or vice versa.
Not in Iran.

[quote ]
By the accent, by asking specific questions and by the use of words, it is quite easy to distinguish Cubans from Mexicans and everyone else.[/quote]

  I couldn't.

   I suppose this would present a pretty good employment opportunity to Puerto Ricans , Federal shibboleth testers.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on May 17, 2016, 11:06:00 AM
Puerto Ricans do not need to pass as anything. They are citizens.
There is a problem with Dominicans passing as Puerto Ricans, but there are linguistic differences that are pretty subtle that Puerto Ricans know.
You give the suspected illegal a list of sentences to read and questions to answer and it is pretty foolproof.

Dominicans know very little about Puerto Rico, its history or its culture.

There is this film in which a Puerto Rican pretends to be Cuban to get freebies intended for Cuban "exiles".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6BIJAnMQ0g
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Plane on May 17, 2016, 07:43:53 PM
     Puerto Ricans need some employment , then they need to pay some taxes, then they need to pay some vultures.
Title: Re: Bill Clinton sounding a lot like Trump!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on May 17, 2016, 08:02:28 PM
i wish Puerto Rico would vote for independence
they are not a state
they've got nothing really to offer
i'd let them go in a second