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Title: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 24, 2016, 11:44:48 AM
(https://s31.postimg.org/4m0mhr8qj/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz_2012_DNC_Convention_Get.jpg)

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chair of the Democratic National Committee has been dropped from the party's lineup of convention speakers after WikiLeaks released emails showing the DNC colluded against Bernie Sanders. According to CNN, Democrat insiders hope that the absence of schultz will prevent chaos on the convention floor from angry Sanders supporters.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Plane on July 24, 2016, 03:34:50 PM
  That would be enough?

   DWS will certainly be due a large reward in the Clinton administration, not only because she has already done so much , but because a loyal soldier is worth ten competent soldiers.

     I was never a Bernie Sanders fan, I do not have any clue how cheated they feel.

      Except for XO who clues me in as well as he can.

         Thanks XO.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: sirs on July 24, 2016, 03:41:41 PM
Umm....WOW....(if this is true)    :o
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 24, 2016, 05:34:39 PM
I read nothing and saw nothing that encouraged me to vote for Hillary based on Sanders defects. All I got were daily appeals for money from Hillary. I replied that I was for Bernie and stop sending me e mail, which they did not do. I did get thanked for my comments, but there was no evidence that my comments were read.

If Hillary used improper techniques, I saw no evidence of this. I see no utility in Sanders supporters suing because they could not bring about a do over.  Sanders won at my precinct by a small margin.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Plane on July 24, 2016, 07:09:47 PM
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In a statement, Wasserman Schultz said she will step down at the end of the four-day convention. She said she plans to formally open and close the convention, as well as address delegates.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dnc-chair-wasserman-schultz-leaving-under-fire/ar-BBuKYdJ?li=BBnb7Kz


Nope.

This is an admission , but she will hold the gavel through the convention anyway?

This is a very bad choice, it will not deflect the ire of Sanders supporters.

Or it would not were I one.


She is admitting that she was unfair to Sanders , one of the left most candidates to ever run for president. This is practically the same as Hillary Clinton herself admitting this same.

  The late withdrawal of DW-S isn't really much , it is like catching a bank robbery and the robbers says " All right , you got me , just let me continue until I am out of the bank".



There is only one real Sanders fan that I ever talk to ,....


What do you think Xo...

   Is there enough contrition being shown?
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 24, 2016, 08:06:08 PM
Hillary admitting this would be like Hillary admitting this.
I am not a great fan of Wasserman-Schultz. She is way too much of a fan of Netanyahu for me. I am hoping she loses the primary. She has a formidable opponent, but I am not in her district.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Plane on July 24, 2016, 10:37:36 PM
There is just no Teflon like Clinton Teflon.


If she looses this election she might consider a career in endorsing cookware.


If she wins, even more so.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 25, 2016, 09:43:48 AM
Surely you jest. Clinton is not teflon.
90% of the speeches of those who endorse Trump only talk about Hillary and all her faults.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 25, 2016, 10:14:15 AM

(https://s20.postimg.org/irx8uyawd/DNC16.jpg)
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 25, 2016, 12:46:45 PM
The e mails were mostly not about what the Hillary supporters DID,. It was about points that MIGHT HAVE WORKED had they been emphasized, such as calling Bernie a Jew or an Atheist.  These were despicable tactics, but they were not used. Wasserman Schultz is Jewish, by the way. VERY Jewish. VERY pro Netanyahu.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 25, 2016, 06:17:47 PM
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz booed off stage at Dem National Convention!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehrPWzJERxU
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 25, 2016, 06:23:46 PM
Sanders Supporters Boo Loudly When Bernie Says "We Have Got To Elect Hillary Clinton"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7kyMjHW-w
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Plane on July 25, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
The e mails were mostly not about what the Hillary supporters DID,. It was about points that MIGHT HAVE WORKED had they been emphasized, such as calling Bernie a Jew or an Atheist.  These were despicable tactics, but they were not used. Wasserman Schultz is Jewish, by the way. VERY Jewish. VERY pro Netanyahu.

What is your point?

Is Nixon blameless because he did nothing at the Watergate himself?
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 25, 2016, 08:45:54 PM
Nixon was clearly aware of what was done in his name.
As I recall, he said something like "a million dollars could be raised... that would not be a problem."
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 25, 2016, 09:27:51 PM
Julian Assange on Wikileaks DNC Email Release

"I guess there's a question: What does that mean for the U.S. Democratic Party? It is important for there to be examples of accountability. The resignation was an example of that. Now, of course, Hillary Clinton has tried to immediately produce a counter-example by putting out a statement, within hours, saying that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a great friend, and she's incorporating her into her campaign, she's going to be pushing for her re-election to the Congress.

So that's a very interesting signaling by Hillary Clinton that if you act in a corrupt way that benefits Hillary Clinton, you will be taken care of. Why does she need to put that out? Certainly, it's not a signal that helps with the public at all. It's not a signal that helps with unity at the DNC, at the convention. It's a signal to Hillary Clinton partisans to keep on going on, you'll be taken care of. But it's a very destructive signal for a future presidency, because it's effectively, it's expanding the Overton window of corruption. It doesn't really matter what you do, how you behave; as long as that is going to benefit Hillary Clinton, you'll be protected."
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 26, 2016, 10:53:00 AM
Debbie quit because the Convention could not proceed in any orderly fashion with her in charge.
There is no conspiracy here. It does not mean that Hillary and Debbie are enemies or friends.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: sirs on July 26, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
Debbie quit because Sanders demanded she quit, and at that point, with all the delegates and potential voters he had in his pocket, the DNC was going to give him anything he wanted.

But, per the realm of Clinton & Democrat functions, instead of losing her job, for such a gross overstepping of her position as DNC stool, she gets a posh position within the Clinton machine.  Way to go Debbie. ... way to play that system
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 26, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
Debbie quit to "fall on the sword" and try and prevent chaos and to protect Hillary.

But it makes no sense that she resigned over these issues and then Hillary immediately hires her.

Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 26, 2016, 04:41:01 PM
I don't think that either Hillary or Debbie does anything to impress you.

She could not have presided over the Convention, but she has other talents that do not require her to appear in public.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: sirs on July 26, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
Yea, she does have other talents. .. homophobic, bigoted, hateful
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on July 26, 2016, 06:37:16 PM
(http://static.infowars.com/politicalsidebarimage/hwiki_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 27, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Hillary got 4 million more votes in the primaries than Bernie.

I voted for Bernie and wanted him to win, but I did not see, read or hear any slanders of his campaign.

On the other hand, all I heard from Trump was Lyin' Ted and Little Marco and Ugly Fiorina.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: sirs on July 27, 2016, 08:57:38 PM
Blinders fully affixed.   You didn't see it, so it couldn't possibly exist.  All those racist, bigoted, hateful plans the DNC was already to unleash, never happened.    ::)
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on July 27, 2016, 09:15:15 PM
Can you prove they did happen?

Strategists discuss all the possibilities.
Even the immoral ones.
But if they do not take action, then the campaign cannot be blamed.
Title: Re: Convention Chaos: Debbie Drops Out!
Post by: sirs on July 27, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
The e-mails speak volumes of proof, riddled with demeaning, bigoted, and hateful mindset.   This isn't about the "strategies" that were or weren't applied.  It's about how the DNC, and in particular DWS, thought of others.   But since they didn't actually trigger some of these bigoted actions, that negates their hateful verbage??  Hardly