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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on September 10, 2016, 09:06:13 AM
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EXCLUSIVE REPORT:
HILLARY CLINTON HAS PARKINSON'S DISEASE, DOCTOR CONFIRMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XtIzH9HoC8
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Ok, before xo starts spewing all over this, I saw this video a few days ago, and had my wife also watch it. We are both medical professionals, and have spent years working with people with Parkinsons. In fact, her mother passed away a little over a year ago, due to the ongoing progression of her Parkinsons'. Point being, we can be considered experts in this area
The physician in the video makes it clear, that this is simply his educated opinion, based on his many years of experience as a physician. He has no access to any of her records, and has never examined her physically. We have to be honest here, it's his educated opinion, with a biased slant, since he also references his distinct opposition to her, as a candidate for President as well
Now that we have the disclaimers addressed, my wife, who is more an expert on Parkinsons that myself, and loathes both Obama & Clinton, couldn't completely support the Physician's conclusions.
Parkinson's manifests itsef in 2 disinct ways.
1) Tremors of extremities, when not doing something functional. The worse the Parkinsons the more difficult it is to keep the tremors from occuring with medication. That can explain how she's trying to keep her hands busy by making specific gestures, or keeping a hand pressed on her chest. So, yea, its possible that's what's happending, but it doesn't translate into what we generally see in Parkinsons' patients
2) Freezing of movements.....as in literally, a person stops, and needs some stimulus to get kickstarted again. Generally occurs at rest, either sitting or standing, but can occur under stress. This was the one area, that my wife & I both noted, when she literally froze on stage, and one of her handlers quickly came over to provide tactile stim to her back, and speak softly into her ear, to try and get her started again. THAT's what we need to keep an eye on
So, bottom line, could she have Parkinsons?...yes. Does she?... not enough evidence for anything conclusive, outside of these educated guesses. Yes, the coughing is pretty intense, and definately more egregious than simply allergies. I'd agree its more of a saliva/swallow issue, but can't connect it to Parkinsons....yet
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So what if she does? Then Tim Kaine becomes president. he is preferable in every way to Trump.
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So what if she does?
If she does, she has no business running for President. The country is voting for a President, not for an entry level VP for President
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I don't think any disease should be considered a disqualification.
Presidents who die in office have not been a big problem, Presidents with serious disabilities have done well a couple of times.
This was a small issue when the alternative was Mondale. It is a small issue now.
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I don't think any disease should be considered a disqualification.
I disagree.....some absolutely should. ANY disease that can effect cognition & reasoning, such as Parkinsons, should be an automatic disqualifier. Any diseases where the treatement can effect cognition & physical ability, such as advanced Cancer, should be a disqualifier. Other diseases that only effects the physical body, such as ALS or CHF would be ok.
It's all about the thinking process. We can't be having crucial decisions being required, and having to wait in between disassociative episodes...or when playing golf
If Clinton does have Parkinsons, she has absolutely no business running for President
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Disagree?
I guess we disagree.
Aren't we deplorable?
Maybe you are irredeemable and I am deplorable.
Or is it possible for reasonable people to be in disagreement without throwing their fellow citizens into deplorable baskets.
I would not vote for HRC if she were healthier than any other, so disagreeing is moot on this anyway.
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Hillary Clinton Fell Ill at 9/11 Memorial:
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Hillary-Clinton-911-memorial-faint-393029701.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_NYBrand
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I don't think any disease should be considered a disqualification.
Ridiculous statement.
If a person has a serious disease that requires an enormous amount of time for "disease management" that would take significant time away from the job then that person should not be President. And of course if a person has serious and significant mental disease that should also be a disqualification.
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Video of Hillary leaving with "over heating" episode at Sept 11 Memorial today
https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200
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Video of Hillary leaving with "over heating" episode at Sept 11 Memorial today
https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200
Additional coverage
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html
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I checked the NY weather. ... perfect day, upper 70's, only 41% humidity
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I checked the NY weather. ... perfect day, upper 70's, only 41% humidity
Prediction: The media will know Hillary's stock is falling....so the media will try and create a major Trump gaffe or Trump controversy in the coming 10 days....the lame-stream media realizes they must try to halt the Hillary massive dive!
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Trump should be careful....not pile on a seriously ill old lady.....take the pity route....act concerned...say he is praying for her health to improve.
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Agreed. .... heep focus on her piss poor judgement, incompotence, and untrustworthiness
He'll be tempted though
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I checked the NY weather. ... perfect day, upper 70's, only 41% humidity
Prediction: The media will know Hillary's stock is falling....so the media will try and create a major Trump gaffe or Trump controversy in the coming 10 days....the lame-stream media realizes they must try to halt the Hillary massive dive!
Reinforcing prediction.....<mark this post>.....As more and more requests are made for Clinton to release a full accounting of her medical records, the lamscream media will double, if not go full bore, on Trump not releasing his tax returns. They'll cite an upcoming report on his charitable donations, and make that front and center news, in an effort to get Clinton's health off the news
Apparently it was ok for the media to go after McCain and hound him on his health, when he ran for President, but heaven forbid we actually allow the people to glimpse someone's records who's suffered blood clots to the brain & fainting episodes
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Hillary the fainting goat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=78&v=we9_CdNPuJg
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I don't think any disease should be considered a disqualification.
Ridiculous statement.
If a person has a serious disease that requires an enormous amount of time for "disease management" that would take significant time away from the job then that person should not be President. And of course if a person has serious and significant mental disease that should also be a disqualification.
All right then , since FDR was a success with full paralysis of his legs due to Polio Mellitus, can one say that a disease must be more serious than Polio to be disqualifying?
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new and closer video of Hillary fainting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzOoj3u3wsw
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If you watch her feet, you can see she's literally being dragged into the van. In other words, she's out, at that point
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Just imagine how media would cover if this were a video of John McCain in September 2008
OUT: How dare you say Hillary is sick?
IN: How dare you? Hillary is sick!
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She has a doctor on her staff, so it is reasonable that the proper treatment has been advised. The report is that she has pneumonia. I seriously doubt that any doctor could make a valid diagnosis to the contrary without physically examining her, so claiming it is Parkinson's is simply idle gossip.
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They will begin floating the idea of Biden replacing her....
Biden would be a formidable candidate and a real challenge because the "Santa Claus Voters" don't care who runs as long as the candidate can deliver the goodies.
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ooops...they already have begun floating the Biden idea!
Cokie Roberts: Dems "Nervously Beginning to Whisper" About Hillary Replacement; Floats Biden as Possibility
http://www.mediaite.com/online/cokie-roberts-floats-that-dems-are-nervously-whispering-about-clinton-stepping-aside/
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I bet we start seeing a lot more Biden...more interviews....more events....more everything
They will pretend it's coincidence....ha ha...yeah sure
Yesterday
Eagles DT Beau Allen celebrates win by taking selfie with VP Joe Biden
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/QTP_BidenEagles/eagles-dt-beau-allen-celebrates-win-selfie-vp-joe-biden
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Trump's tax records are important.
He has zero experience as a politician, he has never been elected to anything.
His expertise is supposed to be in business. But he has had many businesses fail.
He is certainly LESS successful than Bloomberg, a fellow Republican who was successful at running NYC, who started with less money and ended up with more than Trump, and has a far more vast fortune than Trump and who has NEVER declared bankruptcy, or has over 3000 lawsuits against him pending.
Bloomberg is an innovative businessman. His stock guide is in every brokerage in the country.
Trump is a self-promoter, largely famous for his silly TV show on which he fired people.
I observe that Bloomberg, who has no financial incentive to appear at the Democratic Convention. was compelled by his own sense of decency to appear there and to tell the world not to vote for Trump, because, essentially, Trump is a jerk and a chump.
If we do not see Trump's tax returns, we cannot evaluate his business expertise.
Is he all hat and no cattle?
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Long time Democrat and Clinton supporter hearing "whispers" that Clinton may step aside for these apparent non-existent conspiratorial health issues. .... with Kaine, not Biden in the bullpen
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Is the story that she was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday?
When were they going to tell the public that she had pneumonia?
Let me note that a diagnosis of phenumonia says nothing about whether she has another health problem or not.
I am not hurt by her illness, her inability to trust me with the truth offends .
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The story of what she had is largely irrelevant at this point. The pertinent point is that Clinton and her handlers couldn't tell the truth if someone's live was on the line. Still more lies...
If she was diagnosed with Pneumonia on Friday, why were we told she simply was overcome by heat?
If she was given antibiotics for it, she shouldn't be out and about, amongst so many people (especially giving a young child a hug, as comes out of the hospital...I mean, Chelsea's apartment
If this episode was pneumonia related, she would have been taken to the hospital....unless Chelsea has some sort of pharmaceutical clinic in the back of her apartment
Protocol for such an episode would be to take the public official to the closest state certified medical facility....but her handlers overruled this obvious medical emergency to take her to Chelsea's apartment
Protocol was for the NY Police to accompany the vehicle, but the van took off in order to avoid them, as well as ditch the media pool, assigned to her
Nothing the Clinton camp is saying, is making ANY sense, to ANY medical professional, (who isn't on the Clinton payroll, or Clinton/Democrat supporter)
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Pneumonia means "infection of the lungs". There are numerous bacteria tan can be responsible for this.
I hardly think they would send her to Chelsea's apartment if they did not consider this to be the best alternative.
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Pneumonia means "infection of the lungs". There are numerous bacteria tan can be responsible for this.
Irrelevant, not to mention it can also be viral. The Bacterial version is generally far more dangerous to one's health as well, nearly always requiring HOSPITAL care...especially if the person is COLLAPSING ::)
I hardly think they would send her to Chelsea's apartment if they did not consider this to be the best alternative.
Her health was apparently not a priority. Secrecy was
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So Hillary does not have the right to privacy?
She cannot be sick where she chooses because you say so?
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No....not if she's running for president. She's interviewing for a job....WE are the employer. When an athlete is about to be signed to a glorious position, they go thru a FULL physical that the employer has full access to.
And given her track record of lying, we absolutely have every right to know what's wrong with her
Not to mention, that this has nothing to do with privacy. It has to do with secrecy. By LAW, no medical personel, from Chief of Staff to housekeeper, can divulge any medical information about anyone, without legal consent. It's referred to as HIPPA. Had Clinton's crew appropriately taken her to the desginated State approved facility, the medical personel would have been legally obligated to maintain her privacy. But her crew, and possibly Clinton herself, overruled protocol to maintain complete control & secrecy of whatever it is that is making her sick.
In other words, they prioritized secrecy over her actual health
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Hillary certainly agreed to everything that was done.
There is no law that says she has to go to a hospital.
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Of course there's no law, Dr Deflection. ITS MERELY COMMON SENSE. Something that she obviously lacks......in spades. If you HAVE Pneumonia (which she apparently was told on Friday), and you've just COLLAPSED (due to WHATEVER reason), YOU SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION.
Unless of course, you're trying to hide something. In this case, her actual condition