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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: Christians4LessGvt on January 04, 2017, 05:22:29 PM

Title: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 04, 2017, 05:22:29 PM
Trump better hurry and get the wall built
because as he gets more and more companies to stay put in the US
where do you think all the amigos are going to try to move to
as Mexico is halted from stealing our manufacturing plants?

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Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 06, 2017, 03:10:43 AM
How is he going to get Mexico to pay for it?     ???
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 06, 2017, 10:56:07 AM
How is he going to get Mexico to pay for it?     ???

actually pretty easily...it can be done various ways...through better trade deals, etc...
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 06, 2017, 10:59:52 AM
What's the first thing Obama does when he leaves the White House?
Well build a wall to protect his family of course!

Taking a cue from Donald Trump ...
Obama is building himself a wall around his new house.


http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/06/president-obama-dc-house-brick-wall/
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 06, 2017, 03:43:05 PM
How is he going to get Mexico to pay for it?     ???

actually pretty easily...it can be done various ways...through better trade deals, etc...

That's a little too vague I'm afraid.....especially to U.S. tax payers.  We're going to need to see a better dot connection, as in these trade deals will generate $x, that will be y% devoted to wall building, which will cost $z.  That's what the people who voted for him, are going to need to see
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 06, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
Frankly I don't give a shit who pays for it (but am VERY confident Mexico will)
Worst case...I'd say...lets pull out of Europe and Asia if that's what it takes to pay for it
Our country is under siege at our borders currently and that is certainly more important than anything overseas
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 06, 2017, 04:53:55 PM
I don't have a problem with the U.S. paying for it either.....it needs built.....simply that he'll be eviserated for failing to come thru on his biggest campaign promise.  It'll be his "You can keep your Doctor" moment.  That's why I'm hoping that they nip that in the bud, by providing what I outlined above, that demonstrates how exactly "Mexico is paying for the wall"
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 06, 2017, 05:41:56 PM
he'll be eviserated

oh the globalist may howl...but they were gonna howl no matter what he does
they have a diminish America agenda to try and preserve
but this guy isn't like anybody else and neither are a lot of his supporters
he really, really, really doesn't give a shit about "eviscerated"
and it's obvious a lot of supporters dont either
because BOTH parties threw everything in their evil bag of tricks at him
and NONE of it worked....the people see whats more important
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 06, 2017, 07:57:26 PM
no, I'm referring to many of those that took him for his word, who will be howling as well
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Plane on January 06, 2017, 08:36:19 PM
Q:

How much money does the U.S. give to Mexico?

A:



The U.S. Government gave a total of $209 million to Mexico in 2012:

The aid was broken down in the following manner:
http://us-foreign-aid.insidegov.com/q/112/1590/How-much-money-does-the-U-S-give-to-Mexico




I think a reduction of aid would count, perhaps a tax on remittances, an increased tariff..... there are handles on that money.

It may be offered as an option to allow Mexican contractors to build it , because the Mexican government can hire them at lower wages than we can, and Mexico can use the discount.
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 06, 2017, 09:39:18 PM
no, I'm referring to many of those that took him for his word, who will be howling as well

I respectfully disagree
sure not everyone is going to cheer...
but when does that ever happen anyway
I think most supporters...like me....
realize this is a complete "Code Blue Massive Bleedout"
this is an emergency
and it really doesn't matter who pays for what when you are literally bleeding out
what matters is to get the dang thing built...and stop the bleed
as long as he keeps his word to STOP the non-sense...stop the invasion...who pays wont matter
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Plane on January 07, 2017, 09:51:22 AM
What would be the result of a firmer border?

Higher wages on the low end?

More expensive tomatoes and onions?

Less accessibility of car parts?

Harder to find good home repair contractors?
 
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 07, 2017, 02:02:57 PM
no, I'm referring to many of those that took him for his word, who will be howling as well

I respectfully disagree
sure not everyone is going to cheer...
but when does that ever happen anyway

I think C, you're overestimating Trump's support base.  I'd opine that a minimum of a third, if not a majority of those who voted for him, voted to stop Clinton (& Obama's continued socialist agenda), more so than supporting Trump.  As such, if he's going to pull an Obama, and immediately step away of his campaign pledges, with the media painting him as liar in chief, he's going to embolden Democrats on the fence, to join in the obstruction bandwagon, and have that famous promise that "Mexico will pay for it", wrapped around his neck as his You can keep your doctor albatros

I want him to succeed.  I hope he comes thru with good leadership and judgement.  His present cabinet picks and VP pick give me goose bumps at the potential of excellence.  I'm just trying to say, that if he comes across as so callous to those that voted for him, it's going to be a long 4 years for him, and this country
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 09, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
GOP Voters More Aligned With Trump Than Congress

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2017/gop_voters_more_aligned_with_trump_than_congress
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 09, 2017, 09:53:09 PM
If Trump removes jobs from Mexico, there will be more Mexicans unemployed and therefore  more  will likely try to get into the US.

The wall is too expensive. Mexico will never pay for it. Not now, not later, not ever.
 Why the Hell should they?   Would Americans pay for a wall on the Canadian border designed to keep them out?

Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 11, 2017, 10:39:15 AM
What would be the result of a firmer border?
Higher wages on the low end?
More expensive tomatoes and onions?
Less accessibility of car parts?
Harder to find good home repair contractors?

oh booo who we would just collapse without the poor uneducated needy illegal invaders?
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Xavier_Onassis on January 11, 2017, 10:20:28 PM
The stupid wall will not be built and would not make a difference if it were.

Trump is a gasbag and the Wall is just part of his gas.

Never gonna happen.
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: sirs on January 12, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
Barring a tragic accident, death, or assassination, there are 3 things guaranteed to occur under this administration  You can bet the house on these:

1) a Conservative will be nominated to the Supreme Court, and will fill Scalia's seat
2) Obamacare will be repealed, and replaced with alternate legislation, that takes Government out of the control of everyone's healthcare, and puts Government back into its proper role of oversight.
3) a wall will be built.  Can't assume it will be a complete physical wall seperating the U.S. from Mexico, though I'd guess 90% of it will be.  And it'll cost far less than the CA bullet train to nowhere

Sorry to burst your wishful thinking bubble.  But it is good to see you managed to put the ire away from Clinton letting you down, and have returned to the fold
Title: Re: Trump better hurry and get the wall built
Post by: Christians4LessGvt on January 19, 2017, 03:35:44 PM
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