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General Category => Culture Vultures => Topic started by: Brassmask on December 10, 2007, 10:01:33 PM
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Best Movie in years.
Oscar nods for Tommy Lee Jones and Coen Brothers, no doubt in my mind.
Barry Corbin (Maurice Minnifield on Northern Exposure) should get a nod for his five minutes on screen. Most natural acting I've ever seen.
Amazing cinematography of Texas. Amazing acting from Javier Bardem and Josh Brolin and Woody Harrelson.
Astoundingly simply story told by masters of the medium.
If you ever believe me on ANYTHING, please let this be it.
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It's not showing here!
We're a podunk town so maybe we'll have to wait for it to come to DVD.
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Loved the book, loved the movie. I agree with Brass, a must see.
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Saw it.
It sucked.
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Saw it.
It sucked.
Um, ok. Why do you say that?
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What was the plot? Another hitman goes out and committs murder in new and more disgusting ways?
Sorry, It was derivative and slow.
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What was the plot? Another hitman goes out and committs murder in new and more disgusting ways?
Sorry, It was derivative and slow.
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So.... according to you, what WAS a great film?
You should be aware that there are really only something like 36 different plots. Perhaps a few more if you separate gay and straight love themes and count them as separate.
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Ummmmm?
I'll try and address the question concerning what is a great film. I didn't dislike this film because it was bloody and violent. I disliked it because it didn't have a plot and was another lame attempt at duplicating Pulp Fiction.
A great film?
The Godfather?
A Coal Miners Daughter?
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What was the plot? Another hitman goes out and committs murder in new and more disgusting ways?
Sorry, It was derivative and slow.
It was a potboiler.
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I don't want to argue about whether or not it was a great film or not. I personally believe it was one of the best films of the last 30 years or so but that's me.
What I find odd is that you found that it was not a good film when it centered on some of the greatest character actors in some of the best roles in a long long time.
And it was a rural based film.
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There you have it. You think the plot was great. I think it was derivative. Sure, I know the actors, and I like a lot of the things they've done, but their acting couldn't save this snorer.
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I rented this today. It is a great film. It does not deem even remotely derivative to me. I cannot imagine what it might be derivative of. The casting was good, the characters were well-done, and seemed to be authentic West Texans, other than Javier Bardem's character, who was supposed to be mysterious.
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Barry Corbin (Maurice Minnifield on Northern Exposure) should get a nod for his five minutes on screen. Most natural acting I've ever seen.
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I was also impressed with Corbin.
The acting was terrific,the scenery was great. A major film.
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Barry Corbin (Maurice Minnifield on Northern Exposure) should get a nod for his five minutes on screen. Most natural acting I've ever seen.
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I was also impressed with Corbin.
The acting was terrific,the scenery was great. A major film.
XO,
Right after it came out, I was constantly telling people that Barry Corbin should get an Oscar nod. That scene, short though it is, is sooo natural. I specifically think of the story he told about his grandfather (or whoever) and his standing on the porch and the guys there were "goin' about this an that" and he kind of made that motion that I have seen old men do all the time in Mississippi and Texas.
Brilliant.
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Wow, BO disagrees with me.
::)
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So, in what ways is this film derivative, and what is it derivative of?
I don't see that it is like any film I have seen in any way.
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Natural Born Killers, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill
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I remember when Eastwood's "Unforgiven" came out. Everyone was raving about it, critics loved it, garnered a bunch of awards, and being that I love a good western, I was so looking forward to it
I hated it. I hope No Country... doesn't pull the same mean trick
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Natural Born Killers, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill
Those movies are to No Country For Old Men as roller-coasters are to limousines.
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I remember when Eastwood's "Unforgiven" came out. Everyone was raving about it, critics loved it, garnered a bunch of awards, and being that I love a good western, I was so looking forward to it
I hated it. I hope No Country... doesn't pull the same mean trick
Really?
I love Westerns as well. I really liked Unforgiven. Anything in particular you disliked about it?
I particularly liked the spaghetti westerns as well as some of the classics like Shane, High Noon, and a few of the old shows: The Rifleman comes to mind. Tombstone was really good and though I don't much care for Costner, Open Range was really good, I thought.
What I found really awful were the Young Guns movies. Almost unwatchable.
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I rate Unforgiven in my top ten of all time.
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I remember when Eastwood's "Unforgiven" came out. Everyone was raving about it, critics loved it, garnered a bunch of awards, and being that I love a good western, I was so looking forward to it
I hated it. I hope No Country... doesn't pull the same mean trick
Really? I love Westerns as well. I really liked Unforgiven. Anything in particular you disliked about it?
I don't recall the specifics, (it was a while ago) but as best as I recall, it seemed angry all the time, glorifying the bad guy, and how good it is to be mean. and I'm a huge Morgan Freeman fan. I'm a classic Western enthusiast, LOVED "Silverado", and really enjoyed "The Missing" as well as "Tombstone", but I hated Unforgiven, that's all I can say
What I found really awful were the Young Guns movies. Almost unwatchable.
Oh, I can concur with that as well
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I liked Unforgiven too.
Will Munny: All right, I'm coming out. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna shoot him. Any sumbitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, but I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down.
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Young Guns was a hoot.
Buddy movie on horseback instead of motorcycles.
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Blazing Saddles?
A classic in my book.
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blazing saddles ,young frankenstien
mel in his prime
history of the world was pretty good
"it`s good to be the king"
anybody remember the 2 thousand year old man?
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I really liked The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.
Great soundtrack, and more accurate than any Jesse James film to date.
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Wel, if we're talking Westerns, Tombstone is the all time greatest.
I'll be your huckleberry ...
(http://www.baronhats.com/images/tombstone3.JPG)
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you got that right
rich
because of tombstone I never even bother seeing the costner version.
I don`t think i was cheated from skipping that one.
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The Costner version isn't bad. You should see it.
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I grew up on Westerns, Eastwood, Wayne, Jimmy Stewart. I'm with sirs though, I hated Unforgiven, and I think that it was because it was so damned dark. My top 3 Westerns would be: The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Big Country, and even though it's not a true Western, The Shootist.
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I like "once upon a time in the west"
henry fonda !!!!!!!
I also like rustlers rapsody
all the various cowboys fiction and real ,clashing
even pointed out how impractical dusters are in the west
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I cannot stand John Wayne movies. I don't know, he is just so fake to me. None of his roles seem authentic. True Grit was about the only movie, Western or War, that I found remotely tolerable.
Regardless, my favorite westerns (ask me to choose between my children why don't you?)
1. The Magnificent Seven
2. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
3. High Noon
4. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
5. One Upon a Time in the West
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Now Butch & Sundance, with messers Newman & Redford, was indeed an awesome flick 8)
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My personal favorite Western was McCabe and Mrs Miller.
Others I really liked were Little Big Man and Dances with Wolves.
Even though in actual fact, Costner only danced with a single wolf.
I suppose Dances with a Wolf would imply a different sort of film, like A Boy and His Dog, a Love Story.