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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BT on August 28, 2008, 02:33:27 AM

Title: Catchy tune
Post by: BT on August 28, 2008, 02:33:27 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q[/youtube]
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Knutey on August 28, 2008, 02:40:59 AM
Yeah and all yall got is Donnie & Marie.

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5634229 (http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5634229)
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: BT on August 28, 2008, 02:48:30 AM
Quote from: Knutey on August 28, 2008, 02:40:59 AM
Yeah and all yall got is Donnie & Marie.

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5634229 (http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5634229)


I like the music for Mazda commercials too. Doesn't mean I'm going to run out and buy one.

Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Plane on August 28, 2008, 03:12:37 AM
Quote from: BT on August 28, 2008, 02:33:27 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVi4rUzf-0Q[/youtube]

Wow that is a lot of celebrety endorsement.


I counted 12 white women.

Someone must hate Barak Obama a whole lot to make such a thinly veiled vile racist attack on him.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: sirs on August 28, 2008, 03:15:23 AM
LOL
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
That was just fine.

But a few things that went through my head:

Is Dave Stewart even an American citizen?  I'm pretty certain he is not actually.

Same goes for Joss Stone.

Still it was all just fine (Forrest Whittaker miming was a little over the top).

Today is an extraordinary day.  Today is an historic day.  It will be something to tell my grandchildren that prior to President Obama's nomination, there had never been a african-american who had even come close to being nominated and have my grandchildren ask, "What's an african-american, Papaw?"

Yesterday, I felt a slight giddiness as I monitored the live-blogging on the roll call and read that Obama had been nominated by acclimation. It was something to know that the primary campaign was absolutely, finally over.  It was something to know that there was no way that Clinton could steal it away.  I felt relieved and excited that not only was history made, but that Barack Obama, a wise man, is now the person I want to support.

Though across the nation, there are probably 300 million slightly to widely different opinions about the state of our nation, our world even, for all of us, this is a notable day whether we like Obama, hate Obama, feel indifferent to Obama.  We should all see this as a turning point in history for after today, this kind of history can never be made again.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 10:53:28 AM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
Today is an extraordinary day.  Today is an historic day.  It will be something to tell my grandchildren that prior to President Obama's nomination, there had never been a african-american who had even come close to being nominated and have my grandchildren ask, "What's an african-american, Papaw?"

I guess it depends on your definition of "close." He's actually the 13th nominated, but the first to make it through the convention from a major party. Most, incidentally, have been from the Republican party.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
I hate quibbling but you seem to love.

Barack Obama has actually been NOMINATED.

What you are describing is having your name PLACED IN NOMINATION.  Hillary Clinton was PLACED IN NOMINATION against Obama.  OBAMA WAS NOMINATED.

In the context of elections for public office, a candidate who has been selected by a political party is normally said to be the nominee of that party. The party's selection (that is, the nomination) is typically accomplished either based on one or more primary elections or by means of a political party convention or caucus, according to the rules of the party and any applicable election laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomination (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomination)

I'M SURE THESE FACTS WILL NOT ALTER YOUR OPINION.

Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
I'M SURE THESE FACTS WILL NOT ALTER YOUR OPINION.

I'm sure these FACTS will not deter you from thinking you are right. As I said, he was the first to make it through a convention for a MAJOR PARTY, but not the first.

Frederick Douglass, 1872, VP on the ticket of the Equal Rights Party, with suffragist Victoria Claflin Woodhull running as president

George Edwin Taylor, 1904, ran for president on the National Liberty Party

Eldridge Cleaver, 1968,  on the Peace & Freedom Party

Lenora B. Fulani, 1988, on the New Alliance Party's ticket. She is the first African-American to get on the ballot for president in all 50 states. She ran again in 1992.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: _JS on August 28, 2008, 01:17:39 PM
Aren't you missing Angela Davis for the CPUSA?
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
Quote from: _JS on August 28, 2008, 01:17:39 PM
Aren't you missing Angela Davis for the CPUSA?

Just read her bio on Wikipedia and it doesn't mention her running for President.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 11:32:55 AM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
I'M SURE THESE FACTS WILL NOT ALTER YOUR OPINION.

I'm sure these FACTS will not deter you from thinking you are right. As I said, he was the first to make it through a convention for a MAJOR PARTY, but not the first.

Frederick Douglass, 1872, VP on the ticket of the Equal Rights Party, with suffragist Victoria Claflin Woodhull running as president

George Edwin Taylor, 1904, ran for president on the National Liberty Party

Eldridge Cleaver, 1968,  on the Peace & Freedom Party

Lenora B. Fulani, 1988, on the New Alliance Party's ticket. She is the first African-American to get on the ballot for president in all 50 states. She ran again in 1992.


Ok, fine.  Whatever.  But none of them ever came close to winning.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Plane on August 28, 2008, 05:56:54 PM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 10:27:34 AM
Today is an extraordinary day.  Today is an historic day.  It will be something to tell my grandchildren that prior to President Obama's nomination, there had never been a african-american who had even come close to being nominated and have my grandchildren ask, "What's an african-american, Papaw?"



You must be talking about so0me time after the elimination of Affirmitive action.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
Ok, fine.  Whatever.  But none of them ever came close to winning.

Well, now you know something you didn't know yesterday.
Title: Re: Catchy tune
Post by: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: Amianthus on August 28, 2008, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: Brassmask on August 28, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
Ok, fine.  Whatever.  But none of them ever came close to winning.

Well, now you know something you didn't know yesterday.

This is true.  I concur completely.