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General Category => 3DHS => Topic started by: BT on September 24, 2006, 10:00:44 PM

Title: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 10:00:44 PM
At the top of my list i would have:

Neocon
facscist
racist

What's on your list?
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: chickencounter on September 24, 2006, 10:21:58 PM
BDS.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 10:37:32 PM
Hey chicky!

Yeah BDS is used a lot.

Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 10:38:17 PM
Islamofascist
collateral damage
War of Civilizations
terrorist
freedom
liberty
detainee
partisan, bipartisan, non-partisan

Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 10:49:03 PM
Is terrorist misused? How about freedom fighter?

or people's revolution?
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: sirs on September 24, 2006, 10:51:19 PM
Torture
Nazi
Neocon
Big (insert whatever corporation/company here)
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 10:54:46 PM
Yeah i agree corporations get a bad rap, mostly from class warfarists, who ran out of things to say.

Consider the majority of corporations in this country are mom and pop operations trying to eke out a living in complaince of the tax regulations.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 11:10:47 PM
<<Consider the majority of corporations in this country are mom and pop operations trying to eke out a living in complaince of the tax regulations. >>

Well I think that Ma and Pa Halliburton have finally struck it rich enough to retire to that chicken farm they always wanted.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 11:15:17 PM
<<Yeah i agree corporations get a bad rap, mostly from class warfarists, who ran out of things to say.    Consider the majority of corporations in this country are mom and pop operations trying to eke out a living in complaince of the tax regulations. >>

Do you know of any class warriors who have been referring to mom and pop operations when they indict corporate interests and their influence in government?

Because I can't think of a single one.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: sirs on September 24, 2006, 11:16:28 PM
Yeah i agree corporations get a bad rap, mostly from class warfarists, who ran out of things to say.  Consider the majority of corporations in this country are mom and pop operations trying to eke out a living in complaince of the tax regulations.  

Precisely.  Might I also add to my list the word "codeword", not often used, but when used, is nearly always misused in the attempt to distort and redefine other terms, such as "states rights"
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 11:21:18 PM
<<Is terrorist misused? How about freedom fighter?>>

Well, freedom was on my list of misused words.  It's misused alone and it's misused in combination with other words.  Fighter is one of those other words.

<<or people's revolution?>>

No, I don't think it was misused or overused.  But I don't think it has the same literal meaning to a Communist that an anti-Communist might want to give to it just to discredit the Revolution.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 11:25:09 PM
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Mikey says: Do you know of any class warriors who have been referring to mom and pop operations when they indict corporate interests and their influence in government?


Can you show me where people who go on and on about corporations being evil specifically exclude the majority, made up of the mom and pops?

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words. Damn, I forgot "Patriot!"
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 11:26:10 PM
EOM.

(I put EOM in the body of the message because the program wouldn't accept the post without a text message in the body.)
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 24, 2006, 11:30:46 PM
I'll agree patriot is misused as well as overused.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Michael Tee on September 24, 2006, 11:33:16 PM
<<Can you show me where people who go on and on about corporations being evil specifically exclude the majority, made up of the mom and pops?

<<Didn't think so.>>

I think most writers and speakers writing or speaking about the influence of corporations on the media, on US foreign policy, on the political process in general, assume that their readers have the brain-power to figure out that they are not referring to Stella and Louise's used clothing store on Atlantic Avenue.  Point taken, though - -  could be a hugely unwarranted assumption.
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: _JS on September 25, 2006, 12:09:03 PM
Good topic Bt.

Liberal
Fascist
Class Warfare
Communist
Socialist
Terrorist
Neocon
Bushism
Values
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: BT on September 25, 2006, 03:45:27 PM
Which of those, JS , are misused and which are overused?
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: Lanya on September 25, 2006, 04:07:49 PM
Kerfluffle
"going forward with"  (used to say, he's gonna do something. Now, "He's going forward with this."  Tres chic, not.)
irregardless (which isn't even a word)
family values
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: sirs on September 25, 2006, 04:31:15 PM
Which of those are misused and which are overused?

Torture - both
Nazi - misused
Neocon - misused
Big (insert whatever corporation/company here) - both
Codeword - misused
Title: Re: Overused and misused words.
Post by: _JS on September 25, 2006, 05:24:02 PM
Apologies for not including which they were.

Liberal - overused and misused
Fascist - overused and misused badly
Class Warfare - misused badly
Communist - both
Socialist - both
Terrorist - overused
Neocon - overused, I'm not sure it even has a proper meaning
Bushism - overused
Values - both