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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:32:12 PM »

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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:27:02 PM »

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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:23:38 PM »

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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:20:27 PM »

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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:17:49 PM »

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3DHS / Re: Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:15:59 PM »

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3DHS / Well,, I missed Toonsday, but maybe this will make up for it
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:12:02 PM »

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3DHS / Not Worth a Camel
« on: October 03, 2006, 04:09:11 PM »
Not Worth a Camel
by Charley Reese

A deluge of experts, attracted by government money, is drowning Washington. So many elected and appointed officials know even less than the phony experts that it's like a gold-rush town for the briefcase-toting fast-talkers.

You, however, don't need to be an expert – phony or genuine – to figure out the broad outlines of the problems in the world. A simple dose of common sense will do the job.

Let's take Iraq, for example. This is a country artificially created by the British in the heyday of their colonial empire. Arbitrarily included were Kurds, Sunnis and Shiites. The British put the Sunnis in charge under various dictators who kept a lid on the aspirations of the majority Shiites and the independence-craving Kurds. The lid was kept on by brute force through a succession of dictators, ending with Saddam Hussein.

It was like a jack-in-the-box, and when the Bush administration took the lid off, out popped the factions. Are the Kurds going to give up their aspirations for independence? Not likely. Are the Sunnis going to go quietly into the sunset with nothing? Not likely. Are the Shiites, after decades of repression, going to come forth with kindness and forgiveness for their former oppressors? Not likely.

The conflict we see playing out has been there for decades. Didn't anybody in Washington ever wonder why Saddam Hussein killed so many people? He was always a thug and a killer, but even killers don't waste bullets and poison gas unless they have a reason to do so. Saddam, like his predecessors, was constantly trying to prevent the Kurds and Shiites from overthrowing him. Now, with no dictator to suppress them, they are killing each other.

I would say that when more than 6,000 people are killed in two months, it's about as close to a civil war as you can get. I cannot think of any logical reason why anyone in Washington thought that we could remove a dictatorship that had been in place in one form or another since the founding of the country and that a parliamentary democracy would bloom instantly like a lotus in a pond.

To further complicate matters, there are Kurds in eastern Syria, eastern Turkey and northwestern Iran. Do you think Syria or Iran, and most especially Turkey, will tolerate an independent Kurdistan on its borders? Not likely.

Discussion in Washington is usually carried on at the level of college freshmen after several rounds of beers. The Republican answer to its own fiasco is to say: "OK, you don't like the way the president is handling it. What's your solution?"

The proper answer to that is: "In the first place, bro, I didn't break it. You did, and the only solution is to recognize that there is no solution. Not everything that breaks can be repaired. Our choice is to leave now, with 2,700 dead and 20,000 wounded, or linger on until there are 5,000 dead and 35,000 wounded and then leave."

Eventually, after we leave, a new dictatorship will emerge, probably a Shiite version. The Shiites might keep the trappings of democracy like Egypt, but there will be no question about who runs the show. They will have a strong secret police and an army to shut down the dissidents.

Hopefully by then we will have elected some people who know the difference between con artists and real experts whose expertise is grounded on personal experience and a knowledge of the language, culture and history of the areas for which they claim knowledge.

Then, when we find a basket from which are coming the sounds of snakes, we won't be so foolish as to take the lid off and then be surprised when the snakes don't magically turn into bunny rabbits.

In the meantime, use your common sense. Ask yourself just what it is that America's young men and women are dying for. To make Iraq a happy place? To make Israel feel safer? To help corporations with insider connections get richer? Not one of those reasons is worth the life of a camel, much less a human being.



October 2, 2006
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese308.html

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3DHS / Oliphant
« on: October 02, 2006, 11:59:48 PM »

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3DHS / Re: To Free Iraq from Dictatorial Oppression
« on: October 02, 2006, 08:59:31 AM »
Good to see you again, UP.

Been following your discussion 'tween runs. I gotta admit, I agree with you - we went to war supposedly to stop things like this, and give them a free democracy, along the lines of what we have. Um, wait..."in this country, where some people have said that the staff of The New York Times should be tried for treason"...okay, so maybe they're quick learners, after all.

A lot of the things I used to be proud of in this country are being chipped away and falling to the wayside. Small wonder some would be happy with only doing a half-assed job in Iraq.

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3DHS / Re: To Free Iraq from Dictatorial Oppression
« on: October 02, 2006, 12:50:14 AM »
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There are not Mass graves full of Shia dateing from Saddams time?

Saddam could care less whether anyone was Shia or Sunni. What he cared about was that they were not opposing him in any way. His war against the (Shia) 'marsh Arabs' in the south was solely because they were rebelling against his rule, not because they were Shia. He could care less what sect you belonged to, as long as you were loyal to him. You ran no risk of being yanked off the street and summarily executed simply for your religion.

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Wait for what?

Exactly what you provided, that last refuge of those who are all for the war in Iraq - the excuse that things were worse under Saddam.

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3DHS / Re: To Free Iraq from Dictatorial Oppression
« on: October 01, 2006, 12:25:03 AM »
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Since the time of Saddam what freedoms were there to loose?

Hmmmm...An article in the paper this morning (and on the 'net yesterday, something about Iraqi's being quick change artists these days) was telling how Shia's, travelling from one neighborhood to another, carry a picture of one of the bigwig Sunni leaders with them, to convince people they are Sunni if they are stopped. If they don't lie about their religious affiliation, they run the risk of being killed by militias.

I don't recall that that was a problem under Saddam.

(Wait for it...wait for it...)

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3DHS / Re: Give 'em hell, Harry
« on: September 30, 2006, 01:06:27 AM »
All that duckin' and dodgin' and weavin'...

It's a wasted effort.

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3DHS / Re: Comparing His wife to a dog should lose all the women left
« on: September 30, 2006, 12:46:39 AM »
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I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.
- Sir Winston Churchill



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3DHS / Re: R.I.P.
« on: September 30, 2006, 12:12:30 AM »

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